Syria

djchameleon · 08-30-2013, 10:43 AM

I'm not sure if you know it but I am a veteran. If I could sign back up and go over there. I would. I already served my time in the military. I just feel like there is information that our intelligence knows why they are even considering getting involved. Also, I wasn't talking about ground troops batty just made the leap because he thinks that's the direction it will head in.

4gotmyPW · 08-31-2013, 08:29 AM

I don't care how Assad kills his people, the United States should not get involved, the logic of the US is insane basically our gov't was ok w/ him shooting his people to death but somehow a line is crossed when chemicals are used to achieve the same goal.

Foh if we get into a war w/ these retards I swear I'm moving to Canada or Sweeden I refuse to pay for another stupid war.

08-31-2013, 10:34 AM

The idea that America can manage every wayward regime with its military might is really starting to get us in trouble. At the end of the day the real reason Obama has to strike is because to not strike will make America appear weak, especially since he already went running his mouth about it.

We'll just see how this works out. A few strategical strikes, right? What're they gonna do? They can't bomb the stockpiles for obvious reasons. They say they're not in favor of regime change (because they're rightfully scared of the rebels) yet to weaken to army will certainly tip the scale against the regime. If the regime does fall then the weapons don't simply disappear, they fall into the hands of the rebels. It seems very unlikely that a few strikes is going to solve much of anything at all.

08-31-2013, 11:49 AM

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I'd just like to point out that they already had chemical weapons and they already had ties to terrorists. If they were going to give them to said terrorists then I'm sure they would have done so already.

And you know they haven't because...?

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How they use them in their own country is not my business.

Agreed. But we know it won't end there. don't we? It never does. If we learned anything at all from 9-11, it should have been that.

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If we can trace chemical weapons used in an international attack back to Syrian involvement then we can talk about that, but as it stands now I don't think it's worth it.

So we'll just wait until that happens. That last time we did that, we ended up in a full-scale war--exactly where you don't want to be. And you know what they say about definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome.

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I have no idea what point you're making. Is that supposed to be an argument FOR going into Syria? If not, then I'm on board. I want no part of another cluster ****.

Forget about Syria. We're going into Syria now no matter what--that's a done deal and nothing is going to change it no matter what happens. I'm talking about future regimes getting bright ideas about using chemical weapons. We have to show them that this will happen to them too. Yes, it sucks for us--it f-ucking blows. But the effects are way worse on them and if that's what they want to drag to their doorsteps then start dragging. But as for going into Syria--that isn't worth debating. We're going.

08-31-2013, 12:01 PM

Who do you think Syria is going to attack with chemical weapons? I can't imagine who else Assad's regime would have the incentive of attacking right now besides the people trying to oust him.

08-31-2013, 12:09 PM

We're talking about Muslims. You can't expect logical thinking from these people. Who will they gas next? That's exactly the problem--who the f-uck knows??

You can't attribute logical motives into the heads of people who are encouraged if not mandated to think irrationally at least I sure wouldn't recommend it.

Unknown Soldier · 08-31-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

That stuff gets into the oceans, into the wind and innocent countries can suffer the consequences.

Most countries are knowingly contaminating the planet in one way or another, I don't think chemical warfare should be picked on solely for this reason.

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

We're talking about Muslims. You can't expect logical thinking from these people. Who will they gas next? That's exactly the problem--who the f-uck knows??

You can't attribute logical motives into the heads of people who are encouraged if not mandated to think irrationally at least I sure wouldn't recommend it.

The first paragraph is basically a narrow view on the motives of the Syrian regime and Muslims in general. The regime is all about consolidating what it has, rather than an expansionist one. Whenever Syria has attempted to wage war before, it has always needed to be part of an Arab pact and even then its successes were extremely limited.

08-31-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Most countries are knowingly contaminating the planet in one way or another, I don't think chemical warfare should be picked on solely for this reason.

Chemical weapons are made to kill immediately or severely disable a person physically (I know of one that would raise painful blisters all over the body such that wearing clothing was impossible causing the afflicted person to die of exposure). The kind of poisoning you're talking about is like someone smoking--yeah, it's stupid and unhealthy and sooner or later these is going to be reckoning--but chemical weapons are especially bad because they are MEANT to f-uck you up and and fast and those who resort to them are not interested in negotiating or they wouldn't have them in the first place.

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The first paragraph is basically a narrow view on the motives of the Syrian regime and Muslims in general. The regime is all about consolidating what it has, rather than an expansionist one. Whenever Syria has attempted to wage war before, it has always needed to be part of an Arab pact and even then its successes were extremely limited.

I don't care which country over there rules whom, I don't care which is expansionist. One is as bad as the other so it makes no difference. I don't care if they beat and torture people and throw acid on women for not wearing their veils. All of that is just fine with me. Just stay away from the chemical weapons, bio weapons, nukes--I don't trust those people. I was stationed over there in the service and I do not trust those people.

08-31-2013, 12:35 PM

Nonsense. You need to come up with something better than "Muslims are crazy!" to support the argument you're trying to make.

08-31-2013, 01:17 PM

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Nonsense. You need to come up with something better than "Muslims are crazy!" to support the argument you're trying to make.

No, I don't.

08-31-2013, 08:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
4gotmyPW Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 63	I don't care how Assad kills his people, the United States should not get involved, the logic of the US is insane basically our gov't was ok w/ him shooting his people to death but somehow a line is crossed when chemicals are used to achieve the same goal. Foh if we get into a war w/ these retards I swear I'm moving to Canada or Sweeden I refuse to pay for another stupid war.

08-31-2013, 10:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
John Wilkes Booth Guest Posts: n/a	The idea that America can manage every wayward regime with its military might is really starting to get us in trouble. At the end of the day the real reason Obama has to strike is because to not strike will make America appear weak, especially since he already went running his mouth about it. We'll just see how this works out. A few strategical strikes, right? What're they gonna do? They can't bomb the stockpiles for obvious reasons. They say they're not in favor of regime change (because they're rightfully scared of the rebels) yet to weaken to army will certainly tip the scale against the regime. If the regime does fall then the weapons don't simply disappear, they fall into the hands of the rebels. It seems very unlikely that a few strikes is going to solve much of anything at all.

08-31-2013, 12:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
John Wilkes Booth Guest Posts: n/a	Who do you think Syria is going to attack with chemical weapons? I can't imagine who else Assad's regime would have the incentive of attacking right now besides the people trying to oust him.

08-31-2013, 12:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lord Larehip Guest Posts: n/a	We're talking about Muslims. You can't expect logical thinking from these people. Who will they gas next? That's exactly the problem--who the f-uck knows?? You can't attribute logical motives into the heads of people who are encouraged if not mandated to think irrationally at least I sure wouldn't recommend it.

08-31-2013, 12:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
John Wilkes Booth Guest Posts: n/a	Nonsense. You need to come up with something better than "Muslims are crazy!" to support the argument you're trying to make.