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butthead aka 216 09-06-2013 03:06 AM

gun control
 
searched and didnt see a topic. if there is just merge it i very well may have missed it


i am pro guns and i base that on 2 main things


1. i should be able to properly defend myself vs someone with a gun
2. i believe citizens should be able to own guns in the event their government becomes oppressive

i think that since we cant go back in time and prevent the bad guys from gettin guns, then we should allow a good guy to be armed if they choose to.


seems like a lot of non us citizens here so we all may come from different viewpoints.

midnight rain 09-06-2013 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1364428)
searched and didnt see a topic. if there is just merge it i very well may have missed it


i am pro guns and i base that on 2 main things


1. i should be able to properly defend myself vs someone with a gun

The Brits seems to defend themselves adequately without the need for firearms :wavey:

http://i.imgur.com/ryfqMkk.png


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2. i believe citizens should be able to own guns in the event their government becomes oppressive.
I don't think rednecks with hunting rifles would pose much of an obstacle to our government.

butthead aka 216 09-06-2013 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1364430)
The Brits seems to defend themselves adequately without the need for firearms :wavey:

http://i.imgur.com/ryfqMkk.png


not sure what statement youre tryin to make here. that ppl who commit suicide by gun wouldnt commit suicide if no gun was available?

a guy breaks into my home in the middle of the night. why do you think i shouldnt be able to defend myself?

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I don't think rednecks with hunting rifles would pose much of an obstacle to our government.
on a small scale it probably would but even aside from hunting rifles, there are about 94 guns per 100 ppl in the usa. if a government got so oppressive and tyrannical which i realize is not exactly on the cusp of happening, the way to defend yourself would be through havin weapons

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-06-2013 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1364431)

a guy breaks into my home in the middle of the night. why do you think i shouldnt be able to defend myself?

What makes you so sure you can reach a gun, load it and fire it in a straight line either in the dark or under the stresses of finding someone in your house at night or without being seen or heard.

Given the choice between a gun and a cricket or baseball bat, I'll take the bat every time, much easier & much simpler to use..

butthead aka 216 09-06-2013 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1364432)
What makes you so sure you can reach a gun, load it and fire it in a straight line either in the dark or under the stresses of finding someone in your house at night or without being seen or heard.

Given the choice between a gun and a cricket or baseball bat, I'll take the bat every time, much easier & much simpler to use..

theres the chance i could miss when firing or not get to it in time sure

would an intruder be more likely to come at me if he saw me with a gun, or with a baseball bat? thats the question i ask myself and my answer would be baseball bat.

what about a guy with a gun? a baseball bat or club wouldnt be very good defense against that. or even a group of guys with crowbars, clubs, bats, etc. i dont think id have a fighting chance bein so outnumbered. a gun helps level the playin field for the good guys is what i believe

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-06-2013 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1364434)
theres the chance i could miss when firing or not get to it in time sure

would an intruder be more likely to come at me if he saw me with a gun, or with a baseball bat? thats the question i ask myself and my answer would be baseball bat.

what about a guy with a gun? a baseball bat or club wouldnt be very good defense against that. or even a group of guys with crowbars, clubs, bats, etc. i dont think id have a fighting chance bein so outnumbered. a gun helps level the playin field for the good guys is what i believe

An intruder is more than likely in your house to burgle it, not to kill you.

djchameleon 09-06-2013 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1364430)
The Brits seems to defend themselves adequately without the need for firearms :wavey:

http://i.imgur.com/ryfqMkk.png

Yes because the Brits culture and our culture are exactly alike.

That's fine for them but it won't work for us over here. You might also want to check out the stats for their murder rates with knives.

butthead aka 216 09-06-2013 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1364435)
An intruder is more than likely in your house to burgle it, not to kill you.

so i should trust the guy who has no respect for me or my property to not injure me??

or i should just let him raid my home of valuables without confronting him? and if i do confront him cross my fingers he doesn't have a weapon??

seems like im puttin a lot to chance in the guy who just broke into my house to steal my property

djchameleon 09-06-2013 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1364437)
or i should just let him raid my home of valuables without confronting him?

This is basically what he's getting at. Just let the burglar take your shit

midnight rain 09-06-2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1364436)
Yes because the Brits culture and our culture are exactly alike.

That's fine for them but it won't work for us over here. You might also want to check out the stats for their murder rates with knives.

Sarcasm doesn't suit you bro

The U.S.'s homicide rate is 4x that of the U.K.'s. No doubt partially contributed to by ease of access to firearms

Do I think gun control would eliminate firearm homicides entirely? Of course not. Do lax gun laws do more harm than good? Absolutely.


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