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Frownland 10-06-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640625)
there's no way that fiorina broad takes the republican nomination

she looks like a straight up reptilian. only a matter of time before her human mask falls off

You talk about people acting like human imposters and you target Fiorina and ignore Carson? That dude acts like someone programmed him when they were wasted.

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:06 PM

i was speaking on her looks... she looks like a lizard with a human mask on to me... she has very lizardly features...



carson looks like a more refined hermann cain... but personality wise yea he's a wet rag... he's basically a much dryer, more boring version of trump. i think him and fiorina are the real flash-in-the-pan candidates here, not trump. and like hillary and obama before her a large part of their appeal is cause they are just token black and woman candidates.

also, to backtrack a bit... with regard to the media hating trump... it's 100% true. i've never seen both right and left wing media work together to undermine a single candidate's campaign to the extent that they have with trump. especially with said candidate enjoying such success as he has. they continue to pretend he's just like any other flash in the pan like we had during the last republican primaries with perry, cain, bachman, gingrich, etc. very different situation with trump... none of them enjoyed the same kind of clear lead in the polls for as long as he has. not even close. doesn't mean he will win, of course. but it's clear they don't want him to. imo it's cause he poses more of a threat to the current establishment than any other candidate, including bernie sanders and including ron paul or ralph nader or ross perot or any other outsider type candidate that enjoyed any marginal amount of success in any presidential campaign in recent history. that's why they hate him so much, cause he is indirectly calling into question the influence the media is capable of exerting over american politics. i've never seen their smear tactics fall flat as often as they have with trump. it's been a pretty entertaining watch tbh.



Josef K 10-06-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K (Post 1624325)
What does this even mean? Neither of them will get past Super Tuesday and in all likelihood they won't even get that far.

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1624330)
don't lean too hard on that conventional wisdom, joe

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640720)
it doesn't matter... sanders won't get the nomination anyway. it's clearly going to hillary... who is a war hawk... one of her only redeeming qualities. people who think we're better off abandoning our imperial interests are dumb as **** tbh.

lol

Frownland 10-06-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640728)
i think him and fiorina are the real flash-in-the-pan candidates here, not trump.

Aww, that's adorable!

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K (Post 1640729)
lol

i'm just going off his momentum, or lack-there-of, not the conventional wisdom that states hillary will win not only the nomination and the presidency but that trump 'isn't a real contender' no wonder how long he maintains a significant lead in the polls.

but i'd love to see that twat hillary get the boot

but he doesn't seem to be making any real gains on her.... for a second it seemed like he might... but he's basically stuck in the same spot he has been for quite some time now

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1640732)
Aww, that's adorable!

yawn...

Frownland 10-06-2015 08:28 PM

http://www.businessblogshub.com/wp-c...arryTruman.jpg

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:30 PM

what does that have to do with anything you balding twat

Frownland 10-06-2015 08:33 PM

Donald Trump is Leading in the Polls Therefore He's Totally Going to Win! Let's Build a Wall, Y'all!

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:39 PM

i didn't realize the poles made up such a large part of trump's base

and nobody said "he's clearly going to win."

i said it's funny how it's more or less been assumed from the get go he has no chance regardless of how popular he is. that's simply a delusional media narrative driven primarily by liberal disdain for his politics and conservative fear that he could actually hijack the republican nomination. ironically enough the same media are fueling his popularity by trying so hard to discredit him and covering him endlessly - albeit with a negative tone. your average trump voter has no respect for the mainstream media so that's a bit like a white nationalist group trying to preach to the ferguson rioters.

Frownland 10-06-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640740)

and nobody said "he's clearly going to win."

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John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:52 PM

yawn

another below average throwaway post from frownland

how surprising.

Frownland 10-06-2015 08:56 PM

I could say the same about the JWB campaign, but I have faith. I figured that being banned for a month would let you brew up some good ideas, but it looks like you've drifted into self parody and try-hardism. I can tell you picked up a few of those wanking around the shrubbery tactics from Sir Trump too, I'm glad you picked up on that. It can help you seem like you almost know what you're saying while pretending to answer someone's question, which the critical voter does not give heed to (see: Trump's national ratings).

Weren't you the guy who waxed poetic about Vice magazine? I guess I shouldn't be that surprised.

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 08:59 PM

even my throwaway posts are worth more than your entire existence, son

and nah i don't think that was me... never seen a vice magazine.

Frownland 10-06-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640749)
and nah i don't think that was me... never seen a vice magazine.

...sure...and those guys from the border totally gave you like really super legit information about how Mexico sends their Charles Mansons via snail mail (this is all totes true btw) to the US and tells them to kill and rape innocent American citizens to make Mexico look better in the national polls, too.

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 09:13 PM

...**** are you on about :laughing:

Are those the lyrics to one of your 'albums' or have you suffered some kind of brain damage to that early male pattern balding head of yours

Frownland 10-06-2015 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640753)
...**** are you on about :laughing:

Are those the lyrics to one of your 'albums' or have you suffered some kind of brain damage to that early male pattern balding head of yours

With the way you've been stroking your Trump boner around here, I expected you to pick up on my jokes in those posts. I guess maybe it's cognitive dissonance or something? I expected better of you than a weak nonsequitur that didn't quite answer the question...Oh wait, maybe Trump's tactics are more ingrained into you than I had assumed.

It's very helpful to note that rationality isn't exactly useful in cases like these though, thanks for bringing that to light.

John Wilkes Booth 10-06-2015 09:29 PM

i don't know what you're talking about with the vice magazine references... probably cause you either mistook me for someone else or they are just a figment of your silly avant garde imagination, frowny.

i've said i watch vice news videos on youtube before... which is **** like them interviewing ISIS or exposing the propensity of colombians to have sex with donkies... all of which is covered with the utmost journalistic integrity, thankyou. but i've never seen their magazine.

and don't lecture me about rationality... rationality is something one has to display. your rationality should speak for itself. but instead you come at me with half baked crap like "nice strawman" or "eye ron eee" so i have no incentive to put any real amount of effort engaging you rationally, cause when i do you don't respond in kind.

The Batlord 10-06-2015 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1640750)
...sure...and those guys from the border totally gave you like really super legit information about how Mexico sends their Charles Mansons via snail mail (this is all totes true btw) to the US and tells them to kill and rape innocent American citizens to make Mexico look better in the national polls, too.

Yeah, I don't know what the **** you're going on about either. Why did you bring up the border? Cause Trump talks about the border? What does that have to do with what JWB is talking about? You're delving into Sansa levels of incoherent arguments.

Psy-Fi 10-07-2015 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1640647)
Anyone else notice that not one of the presidental candidates want the US to give up its role as world police? Not even Bernie Sanders suggests cutting back on the national defense budget, or ending the support to Israel.

It would be political suicide for any mainstream Democrat or Republican Presidential candidate to promote cutting the defense budget and/or ending support for Israel. I would be very surprised to hear any of them running on either of those ideas as part of their strategy to win the nomination, let alone the Presidency.

Psy-Fi 10-07-2015 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640728)
with regard to the media hating trump... it's 100% true. i've never seen both right and left wing media work together to undermine a single candidate's campaign to the extent that they have with trump. especially with said candidate enjoying such success as he has. they continue to pretend he's just like any other flash in the pan like we had during the last republican primaries with perry, cain, bachman, gingrich, etc. very different situation with trump... none of them enjoyed the same kind of clear lead in the polls for as long as he has. not even close. doesn't mean he will win, of course. but it's clear they don't want him to. imo it's cause he poses more of a threat to the current establishment than any other candidate, including bernie sanders and including ron paul or ralph nader or ross perot or any other outsider type candidate that enjoyed any marginal amount of success in any presidential campaign in recent history. that's why they hate him so much, cause he is indirectly calling into question the influence the media is capable of exerting over american politics. i've never seen their smear tactics fall flat as often as they have with trump. it's been a pretty entertaining watch tbh.

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1640740)
i said it's funny how it's more or less been assumed from the get go he has no chance regardless of how popular he is. that's simply a delusional media narrative driven primarily by liberal disdain for his politics and conservative fear that he could actually hijack the republican nomination. ironically enough the same media are fueling his popularity by trying so hard to discredit him and covering him endlessly - albeit with a negative tone. your average trump voter has no respect for the mainstream media so that's a bit like a white nationalist group trying to preach to the ferguson rioters.

I agree completely.

Two Spirit 05-25-2016 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Josef K (Post 1640717)
Oh, and none of the three are going to win the nomination and every serious journalist knows it.

How does crow taste?

RoxyRollah 05-25-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Rez (Post 1367858)
In voting for Hilary because i want all my rights and privileges taken away since I am far to stupid to have them. Also I make far to much money than I need so I would like jobless drunks and drug addicts who make kids in their free time to take some of it off my hands.

:laughing: Yes.

innerspaceboy 05-25-2016 10:24 PM

With regard to the validity of our voting process -

I don't know how I've just seen this testimony for the first time, but here is programmer Clint Curtis testifying under oath that Rep. Tom Feeney (R-Florida) asked his then-employer to write software to alter votes on electronic voting machines for the 2001 Bush election.

The code swings votes 51-49 for a candidate, ensures votes match between the master tally and the individual machines, and can "eat itself" to be undetectable.

If this is true... what the hell hope do we have?


Zhanteimi 05-25-2016 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1701663)
If this is true... what the hell hope do we have?

There is no hope in politicians. Never has been.

djchameleon 05-26-2016 05:40 AM

The entire voting process is all about the illusion of choice that you are making a difference but you aren't really when it comes to the National stage. Vote in your local elections though, those are usually super close and you can see the direct impact almost right away based on who gets voted in as say a mayor or city council member position.

RoxyRollah 05-26-2016 05:48 AM

Thats a frigging politburo...what you just described Dre.

djchameleon 05-26-2016 07:50 AM

Politburo?

RoxyRollah 05-26-2016 07:55 AM

Its where the hand behind the two parties wheels out your 2 choices to pick from when they have the same agenda...Soviet system of voting. It worked so well in Russia we thought wed try it here.

Frownland 05-26-2016 10:03 AM

Don't act like it hasn't been like that since the beginning.

RoxyRollah 05-26-2016 11:00 AM

Im not. Im saying its no longer covert.It's overt.

Two Spirit 07-12-2016 03:40 AM

A straw poll I made: Us Election 2016 Straw Poll - Straw Poll

Mindfulness 10-02-2016 06:29 AM

that debate was funny and sad at the same time


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