ladyislingering

I nominate this post as ignorant post of the millennium, and if an even more ignorant one spawns out of someone's disgracefully programmed male privilege, this one still must remain as an ignorant runner up.

This is a prime example of the idiocy I deal with by hateful, bitter people who have already ruined their lives in some way and wish the same on me. Not everyone on this planet right now needs to have children. There's already plenty of them waiting in abusive situations, adoption centers, and amish communities where people have 13 of them for whatever reason. There are so many people on the face of this planet that if even a fraction of them decided to reproduce, there would still be people.

I'm pretty sure the child-free aren't going to destroy humanity. If you honestly think that would ever happen, you have an entirely skewed vision of human behavior (and science).

Lastly, my existence is certainly not meaningless. It would be meaningless if I decided to live a life of servitude to a child I never wanted, and that's the truth. I enjoy my life. I plan to continue enjoying my life without children. Why that is so offensive to you (or anyone) could possibly be explained by pronatalist views forced on you from your childhood, or the fact that you're a heterosexual white man who probably expects the woman in your life to make you a baby because your genetics are so superior to everyone else's, that they need to survive for another generation OR SO HELP YOU GAWD, THAT WOMAN IS WORTHLESS!

I think maybe you need to drink more.

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ladyislingering

I think he's just pointing out that there is hatred toward the child-free, and it's so ridiculous and hateful (though people are more inclined to spew attacks over the internet - they usually just make snarky self-indulgent comments in person) that it really makes you wonder where humanity is heading.

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Key

In response to what you said about it being equal, his post pretty much backs up my point.

djchameleon

Backs up your point of what exactly? I'm saying there is hatred on both sides that is why it is equal.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.

Key

Plankton has a daughter, so he tells those that don't want kids that they're wasting their life and should have a child.

There are far more people who are negative against those who don't want kids, especially if they've had kids. 10% of the time a person who has a kid will tell you that it's ok not to have kids and you don't have to try. 90% of the time, they will tell you that you don't know what you're talking about. It is most certainly not equal.

ladyislingering

There are some child-free people that are seriously vicious toward people who have children, but there are more people with children who are rude and evil towards those who don't want them.

Here's how pronatalists sound to the child-free (and believe me, we have heard it all, and it's always annoying and unwanted).



Instead of saying things like "holy shit, shut the hell up, you're getting dumber by the second", we just have to be firm and stand strong against ignorance (which is bountiful).

Here's some classic zingers I've heard from parents:

(This is probably the weirdest/dumbest!) Who will make you a birthday cake?

I will, bitch.

You're still young, you'll change your mind!

This one pisses me off every time. I'm almost 25, I've never had a desire for children, I don't believe in the "biological clock" (who the hell even says that stupid crap?) and I'm certainly not below you in any way, just because you managed to figure out how your reproductive organs work.

And of course there's the classic "I'm better than you - you can tell by the SUV-sized stroller I've placed in your way and my 3 screaming kids who sound like lost relatives of pterodactyls" sneer.

I've never said to a parent "wow, what if you never had children? Just think of the possibilities!" or "I bet you regret that!" but they never hesitate to hate on the child-free.

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butthead aka 216

I've never seen so much self justification in one topic before. You don't have to justify your choices to anyone here but its obvious you do to yourselves so good luck

Key

People will always provide self justification due to the fact that there is a lot of hate toward both sides of the spectrum on this topic (not here specifically, but in general). If we're not allow to justify our reasoning, what's the point of talking about it?

FRED HALE SR.

Honestly i've never encountered anyone snotty towards my option of not having kids. They harp about oh you'd be such a good father. And I say lucky for me I don't have to find out now do I. I always say I love kids, but I love it more when they go home at the end of the day.

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Plankton

I say some pretty stupid **** sometimes.

Hopefully people can look past this and maybe see that I don't really feel that way about the topic at hand. Was just in a fight with the GF this morning, and nursing a huge hangover. Cloudy judgment at best. Rage driven. I don't get angry too often, and when I do I tend to go overboard.

What you do with your life is none of my business, and it's weak minded for me to try to tell anyone otherwise. Ki and Lady, you two are a couple of my favorite people here and it was wrong of me to attack something you're so passionate about. This will be twice in one week where I find myself apologizing, but I hope you'll accept a humble one from me.

There have been quite few times where I've typed something but never got farther than that. This was one of those times where I should have never clicked the "Post" button.

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