Stuff that sucks about being the gender you identify as

Black Francis · 05-07-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I actually agree with you. I don't think men will ever have quite the same connection that a woman has with her child.

they carry the kid..

we have 2 sayings over here that might explain my mindset a bit

"A Mother becomes a mother after she feels her baby inside her but a father becomes a father after he sees the kid"

it kinda fits with the whole theory that Men are visual creatures

"A Father could be many, but only one can be a mother"

But like i said there is always the exception.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 05-07-2014, 04:30 PM

Francis is right and it goes both ways in that a woman can't take the place of a father. Same sex parents in the household are important. Anyone can still do a goid job but sexes are just different. The obsession with ppl pretending thsts not true is absurd and dumb

GuD · 05-07-2014, 04:40 PM

Human beings are visual creatures. If you're a man and don't take the effort to be more than that don't blame it on being born with a cock, that's just a lame, tired, ridiculous excuse. Same goes for women and whomever else.

There might be a lot of people who fall in line with whatever 'traditional' role applies to them but it's absurd and dumb to believe being born as a man, woman, or whatever is indicative of who you'll become as a person. Even more absurd and lame is this need some people seem to have in defining a person's characteristics and capabilities by gender. Just take it out of the equation. Anatomy is the only thing that really separates men from women and even then there's tons of variety and the differences are based on averages.

djchameleon · 05-07-2014, 04:44 PM

Francis isn't right because it isn't a right or wrong thing it is an opinion based thing. Either you subscribe to traditional gender roles and cavemen mentality or you dont.

BF I don't know why you think that I am upset over a small discussion we are having. Now that I know your point of view of course we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

FRED HALE SR. · 05-07-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Francis isn't right because it isn't a right or wrong thing it is an opinion based thing. Either you subscribe to traditional gender roles and cavemen mentality or you dont.

BF I don't know why you think that I am upset over a small discussion we are having. Now that I know your point of view of course we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

I wouldn't call traditional gender roles, caveman-like. Lots of people live perfectly happy lives under the traditional fold.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 05-07-2014, 04:52 PM

Traditional type roles work fine

Everyone has their own alterations in their relationships. Men n women are just generally each suited to be better at certain aspects

Black Francis · 05-07-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Francis isn't right because it isn't a right or wrong thing it is an opinion based thing. Either you subscribe to traditional gender roles and cavemen mentality or you dont.

BF I don't know why you think that I am upset over a small discussion we are having. Now that I know your point of view of course we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

Huh?
What discussion are we having? And did you just call me a caveman? lol

i thought i was debating with WD.

But yea Deej, there are some topics we will simply not agree on.
And that's cool, i don't need everybody to think like me.

GuD · 05-07-2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

Traditional type roles work fine

Everyone has their own alterations in their relationships. Men n women are just generally each suited to be better at certain aspects

They work fine if you identify with them. If you don't you're quite likely in for a very miserable life filled with people who tell you to just get over it and be more like them.

The only reason a man or woman would be better suited to a task would be because they were conditioned to be so.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 05-07-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

They work fine if you identify with them. If you don't you're quite likely in for a very miserable life filled with people who tell you to just get over it and be more like them.

The only reason a man or woman would be better suited to a task would be because they were conditioned to be so.

And sexes are conditioned seperately towards certain things. So I don't ignore that. I'm not an idealist or live in an alternate reality and of course we are all speaking in generslities which I wont mention again. Just csuse ppl are conditioned a certsin way don't mean much to me

GuD · 05-07-2014, 05:25 PM

So, when discussing the capabilities of a person in regards to their gender, it doesn't matter much to you that a person might have been brought up being told they should behave in certain ways and not others? Because that's kind of a huge detail in the debate.

05-07-2014, 04:40 PM	#163 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	Human beings are visual creatures. If you're a man and don't take the effort to be more than that don't blame it on being born with a cock, that's just a lame, tired, ridiculous excuse. Same goes for women and whomever else. There might be a lot of people who fall in line with whatever 'traditional' role applies to them but it's absurd and dumb to believe being born as a man, woman, or whatever is indicative of who you'll become as a person. Even more absurd and lame is this need some people seem to have in defining a person's characteristics and capabilities by gender. Just take it out of the equation. Anatomy is the only thing that really separates men from women and even then there's tons of variety and the differences are based on averages. __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc Last edited by GuD; 05-07-2014 at 04:47 PM.

05-07-2014, 05:25 PM	#170 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	So, when discussing the capabilities of a person in regards to their gender, it doesn't matter much to you that a person might have been brought up being told they should behave in certain ways and not others? Because that's kind of a huge detail in the debate. __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc

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~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	Francis is right and it goes both ways in that a woman can't take the place of a father. Same sex parents in the household are important. Anyone can still do a goid job but sexes are just different. The obsession with ppl pretending thsts not true is absurd and dumb

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~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	Traditional type roles work fine Everyone has their own alterations in their relationships. Men n women are just generally each suited to be better at certain aspects