Soulflower

I am not trying to act like I understand what it is like to be "white". I am specifically speaking from my own experiences as well as the experiences of African American so not sure why you got that from my post.

A White person will never understand what it feels like to be stared at the mall because someone thinks you are going to steal something.

How is that acting like I "understand" what it is like to be white when I am talking about the experiences of African American/minorities?

ONCE AGAIN, Why do you assume that I think I know that when I am talking about African American women?

Western culture glorifies average looking white women as beautiful or African American women who are light skin who have European features. Are you honestly saying this is not true???

This is a well known observation that has been going on since the beginning of time and no I am sorry but I am not going to "sugar coat" the truth for you.

White woman do not have to worry about some of the issues African American women have to worry about and yes it can go vice versa but I am clearly and specifically talking about the black/minority experience so not sure why you keep arguing I am trying to understand what it is like to be "white" because that was not the point of my post and it is sad that you did not get the point.

It is nothing bad about pointing out stereotypes and representations that reflect/symbolize prejudice attitudes.

Tristesse

You are not just talking about African american women because you keep mentioning things that white people will never "feel" or never "understand what it feels like". That means you are making statements and assumptions about white people as well, and not just talking about african americans. You are putting ignorant opinions across as fact, as if you know how white women feel about beauty and you know that white men in hoodies are never worried about seen as 'thugs'. I can't comprehend how you can not see that your stereotypes and assumptions of white people make you as bad as people who stereotype african americans. Frankly, to quote you, I find it "outrageously offensive".

"Western culture glorifies average looking white women as beautiful" ?!

Yes, of course I am saying that this is not true, where the hell did you get that idea from. You think that western people don't think any dark skinned african american women are beautiful? And that most white women are seen as beautiful? That is just absurd. Everyone knows that the media can't be trusted to portray the general view of beauty (as they seemed to encourage anorexia a few years ago in their portrayal of beautiful women) but these media sources are not representative of the western view. I don't walk down the street thinking how all the white women I pass are beautiful while thinking otherwise of all the black women, and neither do many other people.

Your views are close minded and offensive. I hope you don't mind me pointing out your stereotypical views that reflect/symbolise your prejudicial attitudes.

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Soulflower

I think your rationalization and the way you are interpreting my opinion is way off.

There is nothing about anything I said that suggests I am assuming what it is like to be white. I am just arguing that white people will never know what it is like to experience the issues and problems minorities experience AND they won't

At this point I really could care less how you interpret that because I think you are the one being close minded and offensive because you are not trying to be empathetic to the point I am trying to make. I continually speak from my own experiences and the experiences of African American but the only thing you seem to process from my posts is that I am trying to assume what it is like to be white. That is sad because you are only looking at my posts from your own point of view and interpreting what you want from it.





These are not "ignorant" opinions.

Have you ever taken Social Psychology, Micro aggression or Implicit/Explicit Racism? I study these types of issues and research supports that these issues commonly occur more within the minority community than Caucasian.

Once again, I am not speaking for white people when I mentioned them in my post. I was clearly only speaking on the experiences of African American and just arguing that White people will never know what it feels like to go through those experiences because they are "privileged"

That in no way suggests I am trying to analyze what it is like to be white when I am clearly only speaking of the experiences of African Americans.

Why is it so hard for you to mentally process that? Are you so close minded that you can not process that?




I am pointing out negative stereotypes that are commonly associated with being an African American or a minority that white people do not have to worry about.

So why are you insisting these are my "own" assumptions when these are well establish stereotypes that are culturally embedded in our society?


If anyone is being offensive, it is you because you are acting as if these stereotypes do not exist and that white people experiences the same issues with racism/discrimination as African American and they do not.

I find it down right hilarious you find my post offensive but did not call out the poster who was mocking slavery and African Americans who experience racism but you find so much wrong with my post.....



Why are you taking bits and pieces of my post and interpreting the way you want to. You are taking my statements out of context when you do that. You keep mentioning this statement but did you actually read the entire paragraph?




You just made a bunch of contradictions in this post.

If you argue that the media can not be trusted and that they control the general view of beauty why do you have a problem with me mentioning that the media promotes Western Ideals of beauty? That is pretty much the same thing. I am sorry but the media promotes and reinforces the Western principles of beauty which primarily favors Caucasian or Minority Women who appear Caucasian or have Caucasian features. This has been going on since the beginning of time. These are not my personal "assumptions". The media IS a representation of the Western view since we live in a Western society that is heavily dominated by the mass majority...










YOU might not think that but it still does not change that that is a stereotype that the media promotes as far as beauty goes.



I think your views are ignorant, close minded and offensive. I find some of the members here offensive when it comes down to this issue and I am not sure if it has to do with their race or background but it is troubling that most here are insensitive and oblivious about social issues that affect other races besides their own.