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Neapolitan 08-25-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1481957)
to me the real point is we are willing to inflict said traumatic effect on animals in other ways so even if screwing them has the same effect that isn't an argument for it being wrong unless you are willing to equally condemn all the other ways we inflict that sort of pain on them. and so this requires that you not only be a vegetarian but that you push to ban the practices that are currently hurting animals, or else you should also be willing to let people screw them.

How about just realizing the fact that having eating food for nourishment isn't the same as bestiality?

djchameleon 08-25-2014 12:03 PM

This is pretty simple, just don't **** something that isn't your own species.

You weren't meant to pro-create with them and it isn't natural so it's morally wrong.

The Batlord 08-25-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1481970)
This is pretty simple, just don't **** something that isn't your own species.

You weren't meant to pro-create with them and it isn't natural so it's morally wrong.

Really? You're going with that? You're also arguing against vegetarianism then, since we have canines. Hell, you're arguing against homosexuality, since we're not "meant" to procreate with our own gender. You're confusing biology with morality.

I seriously have yet to hear an argument against my and JWB's positions that doesn't amount to either, "It's icky, so therefore it's wrong," or inconsistent claims about consent. Rationalizing cultural taboos is not a legitimate logical argument, and if you're worried about consent then the entire concept of a pet is abusive. Not to mention commercial uses for animal products.

RoxyRollah 08-25-2014 02:47 PM

Its nothing like homosexuality Bats ..That is a stretch.
Same gender ok whatever floats yer boat.
Animals are not the same species.. ..

FRED HALE SR. 08-25-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1482012)
Really? You're going with that? You're also arguing against vegetarianism then, since we have canines. Hell, you're arguing against homosexuality, since we're not "meant" to procreate with our own gender. You're confusing biology with morality.

I seriously have yet to hear an argument against my and JWB's positions that doesn't amount to either, "It's icky, so therefore it's wrong," or inconsistent claims about consent. Rationalizing cultural taboos is not a legitimate logical argument, and if you're worried about consent then the entire concept of a pet is abusive. Not to mention commercial uses for animal products.

So its not Icky then? The short answer is no. The long answer is get the **** away from my animals freakshow.

The Batlord 08-25-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1482018)
Its nothing like homosexuality Bats ..That is a stretch.
Same gender ok whatever floats yer boat.
Animals are not the same species.. ..

DJ's point was that we were not "meant" to mate with animals. We are likewise not "meant" to mate with people of our own gender. I was pointing out a logical inconsistency, not comparing the act of bestiality with the act of homosexuality. I think it illustrates the intellectual laziness that a lot of people here are using just because this isn't the kind of issue that's easy to feel good being open-minded about.

RoxyRollah 08-25-2014 02:57 PM

Dude there aint no open mindedness on this topic for me.Bestiality turn my stomach.

The Batlord 08-25-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1482024)
Dude there aint no open mindedness on this topic for me. Homosexuality turn my stomach.

I'm sure we can find somebody who will agree with this fixed statement. You can't just say something is wrong because you think it's gross. That's a subjective, aesthetic opinion that has no place in a logical discussion on morality.

FRED HALE SR. 08-25-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1482024)
Dude there aint no open mindedness on this topic for me.Bestiality turn my stomach.

I might be old fashioned but laying pipe in an animal has just never been an option.

FRED HALE SR. 08-25-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1482032)
I'm sure we can find somebody who will agree with this fixed statement. You can't just say something is wrong because you think it's gross. That's a subjective, aesthetic opinion that has no place in a logical discussion on morality.

So did you vote yes or was it Booth? LOL


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