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Black Francis 02-15-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1552170)
Wait, so if I'm in Mexico, can I be all like, "What's up, moreno?"

Totally, try not to be too douchy it about it though and don't be offended if they call you Gringo.


Chula Vista 02-15-2015 11:20 AM

And be sure to grab some tacos from the nearest street vendor. (you haven't had a great taco until you've bought one from a scary looking metal cart on the side of the road in Mexico.)

The Batlord 02-15-2015 11:21 AM

I've dreamed of being called gringo all my life. Cracker has become stale. I just wish black people still said honky. How offensive is gringo supposed to be? Is it on the same level as puta, cabron, or maricon?

Black Francis 02-15-2015 11:30 AM

It's kinda like the equivalent of cracker, honky and foreign all into one.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1552182)
And be sure to grab some tacos from the nearest street vendor. (you haven't had a great taco until you've bought one from a scary looking metal cart on the side of the road in Mexico.)

Im not sure why you would pay for diarrhea. :p:

The Batlord 02-15-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1552190)
It's kinda like the equivalent of cracker, honky and foreign all into one.



Im not sure why you would pay for diarrhea. :p:

But how offensively should I take it? Cause if a black guy calls me a cracker, it's generally all in good fun. And nobody has used honky since George Jefferson.

Black Francis 02-15-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1552205)
But how offensively should I take it? Cause if a black guy calls me a cracker, it's generally all in good fun. And nobody has used honky since George Jefferson.

idk dude it's all in the context and the attitude in which it is said.

usually it's not meant to be that hurtful, it's just a slight jab at your ethnicity, so just be cool if someone says it you and don't make it a big deal.

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1552205)
But how offensively should I take it? Cause if a black guy calls me a cracker, it's generally all in good fun. And nobody has used honky since George Jefferson.

I've been called it a lot and from multiple different people and it was never meant offensively.

The 2 ladies I used to open boxes with at the Gap
A couple friends
Some of the guys I shot pool with at a Spanish bar
My cousin's wife's family

I feel like if it's meant to be offensive you will know.

John Wilkes Booth 02-15-2015 09:20 PM

i've had people shout it at me from moving cars

they certainly intended to offend me

at the time, they did. cause i was young and eager for approval.it wasn't like i was offended at the term cracker. i just resented having to be white.

but as an adult i don't really care about the term because its silly. even if it's intended maliciously i'll only get a chuckle out of it.

Janszoon 02-16-2015 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1552184)
Cracker has become stale.

I see what you did there.

Chula Vista 02-16-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1552190)

Im not sure why you would pay for diarrhea. :p:

Never gotten sick off of TJ street food.

*knocks on nearest wood*

Neapolitan 02-16-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1552205)
But how offensively should I take it? Cause if a black guy calls me a cracker, it's generally all in good fun. And nobody has used honky since George Jefferson.

I wouldn't worry if they say "cracker," but if they say "cracka" — yeah, you should take offense.

John Wilkes Booth 02-16-2015 11:39 AM

there are black people i knew in florida who refer to police officers in general as crackers even if they're black

RoxyRollah 02-21-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1552752)
there are black people i knew in florida who refer to police officers in general as crackers even if they're black

Don't worry about what we do ,white oppressor.

Guybrush 02-22-2015 06:38 AM

I could look it up, but for the sake of argument, I might as well ask here.

I get that cracker is slur for white people, but what is it supposed to mean? Is it literally a reference to the kind of crackers you eat or is it something else?

I would find it hard to be offended by a word which I don't know what means or refers to.

RoxyRollah 02-22-2015 07:23 AM

Im not sure the actual origin of the term cracker.Wheter its rooted in jive,or from the Jim Crow days.I doubt its old enough to date back to the cotton picking days of old.Im willing to bet its not a cracker you eat as well.I shall query at our tri annual BLACK PEOPLES CONNVENTION!

Guybrush 02-22-2015 07:39 AM

It's like being called a chair or a battery .. the most offensive thing about it is how little offensive it is, like you're not worth the effort of real maliciousness.

DwnWthVwls 02-22-2015 08:28 AM

I've heard cracker explained as slavemaster. The whip "cracker" aka oppressor.

RoxyRollah 02-22-2015 10:05 AM

no one asked you whitey.

Black Francis 02-22-2015 10:21 AM

The white man screwed over my ppl too.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/tear.gif

Frownland 02-22-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1555205)
I've heard cracker explained as slavemaster. The whip "cracker" aka oppressor.

This. Not really an insult if they're technically calling you master.

Guybrush 02-22-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1555235)
This. Not really an insult if they're technically calling you master.

That was kinda my thought too .. poor american white folks who'd have to be reminded of a time when their ancestors might have owned people who did labor for them.

The Batlord 02-22-2015 12:35 PM

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Isbjørn 02-22-2015 02:27 PM

I don't find being called "black" offensive. I'm a paper-white Norse boy, though.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1555235)
This. Not really an insult if they're technically calling you master.

Well, in this case they're implying that you're a terrible person. Hitler was a master in Nazi Germany, and calling someone Hitler is pretty offensive.

Frownland 02-22-2015 02:35 PM

A terribly rich person. I'll take it.

The Batlord 02-22-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1555339)
Well, in this case they're implying that you're a terrible person. Hitler was a master in Nazi Germany, and calling someone Hitler is pretty offensive.

And how would you propose to motivate unpaid workers? Huh? Don't judge till you've walked a mile in their shoes.

RoxyRollah 02-22-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1555228)
The white man screwed over my ppl too.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/tear.gif

Mang who is you lying too? You are Puerto Rican.Shut your mouth and hold these blanketz filled. with cholera.

John Wilkes Booth 02-22-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1555342)
And how would you propose to motivate unpaid workers? Huh? Don't judge till you've walked a mile in their shoes.

someone in my class was trying to sound compassionate by explaining that if he were a slavemaster back in the day he wouldn't beat his slaves, he'd basically treat them like workers he paid with food and housing. on some uncle tom's cabin ****. it was one of those amusingly awkward white guilt moments.

i pressured him a bit and started asking him what he would do if his slaves decided they wanted to leave his property and go pursue a life of freedom. but he was too stubborn to be moved. so i kept pressuring him to beat his imaginary slaves or at least question his certainty in what kind of morals he would have if he were born in a different place and time with different social pressures and influences shaping his perspective of right vs wrong behavior.

my teacher was a black dude with a decent sense of humor and he ended the back and forth by interjecting "well, all already know what brandon (me) would do." :laughing:

Oriphiel 02-22-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1555397)
my teacher was a black dude with a decent sense of humor and he ended the back and forth by interjecting "well, all already know what brandon (me) would do." :laughing:

Yeah, while everyone else is beating each other, you'd be beating yourself. :yeah:

The Batlord 02-22-2015 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1555397)
someone in my class was trying to sound compassionate by explaining that if he were a slavemaster back in the day he wouldn't beat his slaves, he'd basically treat them like workers he paid with food and housing. on some uncle tom's cabin ****. it was one of those amusingly awkward white guilt moments.

i pressured him a bit and started asking him what he would do if his slaves decided they wanted to leave his property and go pursue a life of freedom. but he was too stubborn to be moved. so i kept pressuring him to beat his imaginary slaves or at least question his certainty in what kind of morals he would have if he were born in a different place and time with different social pressures and influences shaping his perspective of right vs wrong behavior.

my teacher was a black dude with a decent sense of humor and he ended the back and forth by interjecting "well, all already know what brandon (me) would do." :laughing:

Remember this thread? I think we almost made WD's brain explode.

http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...holocaust.html

ladyislingering 02-22-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1555310)

same, but as a matter of fact, I benefit from the systematic oppression of other races, which isn't cool at all.

so I'm a little conflicted.

The Batlord 02-22-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1555442)
same, but as a matter of fact, I benefit from the systematic oppression of other races, which isn't cool at all.

so I'm a little conflicted.

I'm most certainly not conflicted. I might feel a bit guilty when I can be bothered, but at no point in my life have I ever wanted to trade places with them. Sorry actual Africans. I like my home not to be in the middle of a starving, civil war-ravaged, rape zone.

ladyislingering 02-22-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1555445)
I'm most certainly not conflicted. I might feel a bit guilty when I can be bothered, but at no point in my life have I ever wanted to trade places with them. Sorry actual Africans. I like my home not to be in the middle of a starving, civil war-ravaged, rape zone.

well yeah

I don't want to trade places but I also wish that the comfort of being white wasn't a result of the discomfort of people who are anything other than white.

I also wish there weren't shitty places in the world where people are starving, getting shot for existing, getting raped for whatever reason, and blowing themselves up for Allah or whatever.

but what can you do?

nothing.

The Batlord 02-22-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1555450)
well yeah

I don't want to trade places but I also wish that the comfort of being white wasn't a result of the discomfort of people who are anything other than white.

I also wish there weren't shitty places in the world where people are starving, getting shot for existing, getting raped for whatever reason, and blowing themselves up for Allah or whatever.

but what can you do?

nothing.

Watch videos of fat people falling down?


ladyislingering 02-22-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1555464)
Watch videos of fat people falling down?


the moral of the story:

If NASA can see your ass from space, you have a problem. But not as much of a problem as you've got if you're a hamplanet with a bicycle.

Black Francis 02-23-2015 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1555345)
Mang who is you lying too? You are Puerto Rican.Shut your mouth and hold these blanketz filled. with cholera.

Ok, you white and came in a fancy ship, i think i can trust you.

Ahh, i see you eyeing my daughter Mucho booty, why don't you sleep with her a f*ck up our gene pool!? :mad:

F*cking spaniards.. >_>

RoxyRollah 02-23-2015 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1555690)
Ok, you white and came in a fancy ship, i think i can trust you.

Ahh, i see you eyeing my daughter Mucho booty, why don't you sleep with her a f*ck up our gene pool!? :mad:

F*cking spaniards.. >_>

If by fancy ship you mean being white enough to be in the house instead of the cotton field. Get your facts straight bro. I am light skinned.

John Wilkes Booth 02-23-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1555690)
Ok, you white and came in a fancy ship, i think i can trust you.

Ahh, i see you eyeing my daughter Mucho booty, why don't you sleep with her a f*ck up our gene pool!? :mad:

F*cking spaniards.. >_>

most of your people fell out cause they had no resistance to our superior old world diseases

so blame god/evolution for that one

RoxyRollah 02-23-2015 11:33 AM

oh no hes as native as J.Lo. Dont let him lie to you...

Guybrush 02-23-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1555690)
Ahh, i see you eyeing my daughter Mucho booty, why don't you sleep with her a f*ck up our gene pool!? :mad:

F*cking spaniards.. >_>

What, you think the spanish have inferior genes? Or is it that you'd like to keep your race "pure"?

Tsk.

Black Francis 02-23-2015 11:51 AM

First it's our fault that we got their diseases and now apparently we can't even refuse to sleep with them without being racist.


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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1555799)
oh no hes as native as J.Lo. Dont let him lie to you...

Get your facts straight bruh, Born and raised in PR. :cool:



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