apparently so

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Colombiana.jpg

It is relevant if you are suggesting that it is term that should be used instead of "black"

It doesn't matter that it is scientific. White slave owners called Africans the n word because they thought it was scientific too. It doesn;t make it right.




You can not use that term to define physical attributes. I gave a perfect example for why you can not do that. So you insisting this still without any examples does not support your opinion much.



She is spanish, period. She is not African American although she looks like she could pass for it, thats my point.

So how do you describe yourself Jen? And what would you call me?

Sexual Chocolate. She calls you cracka. :)

What?

:) Wait for it wait

:rofl:

TFW someone asks if you are Kyrie Irving.

http://cavsnation.com/wp-content/upl...crop_north.jpg

Yup, people ask if we're brothers all the time.

Just from the waist down right?

You know what? Kiss my high yella ass.

:band:

Well my point was you can not go off of physical attributes because they don't tell the whole story about where someone is from.

Personally, I wouldn't judge you based off of your looks.



I would ask you where are you from or what do you personally identify as.


I personally identify myself as African American.

I have two African American parents.

However, there are more races that run in my family and in my ancestry such as Caucasian and Native American

Thats my story.

Who said anything about judging?

Sometimes people might think you are a certain race based off of physical appearances and that may not necessarily be true.

:)

If slave owners used the word that still doesn't take away from its neutral scientific use.

I did give you examples: white South Africans and Arab Egyptians. They're just as much from Africa as sub-Saharan Africans.

If she's purely Spanish then why does she look black? Does she not have African slave blood? And like I said, the Spanish also have black African blood in them from the Moors.

So even calling yourself African American isn't entirely accurate. You're essentially denying your other ethnicities. If you can't use physical attributes to define race, then you are also both Caucasian and Native American.

I thought the Moors conquered the Italians. I watched True Romance at least a hundred times.

If I were legitimately asked I would say ,Black American. There is nothing remotely African about me. Nor do I want there to be.Africa sucks wind. Light Black however was the best one Ive heard from Jamaicans..

Also discriptors are not the same thing as judging ;)

Interesting. I can't believe I clicked that. LOL

My point is it doesn't matter if its consider scientific or politically correct, its an ignorant and racist term, period. It should not be used nor should it come out your mouth.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. All I am saying is you can not go strictly off of physical traits or attributes in determining someones race, thats it.


She has two Dominican parents. She is not bi-racial. You are talking about ancestry which is not the same.

She is still Dominican, she is not black.


Dont tell me what I am!

I am African American.

I have two African American parents regardless of what is in my ancestry. I am not bi-racial.

Where were your parents born? How about your grandparents? Great grandparents?

Your ancestry of course counts.

How can you not see my point? If a white South African moves to America, why is he not as African American as you?

Is Dominican an actual race, or is just someone from the Dominican Republican?


If you have Caucasian and Native American blood then you are indeed multi-racial by definition. Simple as that. Just because you may have less Caucasian blood doesn't magically make it go away. It sounds like you want to deny your other heritage just because you want to be African American and nothing else. That actually sounds pretty racist to me.

Seems like you all need to define what your definition of race is. How many times are you gonna repeat the same thing with different words?

And you sound pretty ignorant.

Done with this debate.

And again my points go unanswered.

Now I might be mistaken but the way this was taught to me is there are really only three dna discriptors the let you know wheter someone is Caucasian, negroid ,or asain.
Yay Forensics.So that being said someone from the D.R. is negro.Even Spanish ppl.Socially speaking is another ball of wax.

I do believe that "negroid" has been replaced by "congoid", but I'm assuming that's more for political correctness. Same idea though, and since it's a scientific term rather than a racist or eugenic one then it shouldn't matter.

semantics.

That is a racist term for Jews and I'd appreciate it if you didn't use it.

And then there's this way to look at it. Kinda long read but interesting.

http://www.newsweek.com/there-no-such-thing-race-283123

Was good enough to for Disney.....

And you're surprised?

I figure if I asked enough times she'd answer just out of sheer frustration. No luck.

How about a TL;DR?

race is a social construct, not a useful biological category

And there it is, thanks

Except thats incorrect,Biologically yes there are differences.Socially there shouldn't be,but there are.