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Soulflower 10-17-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1498639)
Oddly enough the US judicial system waits until the grand jury investigation or trial concludes to put people in jail. Weird I know.


Hunny if those 3 cops were African American, they would not be walking free right now.

There would have been a warrant for their arrest.

How is one able to shoot someone unarmed 17 times and is still walking free?

You can still have a fair trial but the entire protocol was not done the way it normally is.

Frownland 10-17-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1498705)
Hunny if those 3 cops were African American, they would not be walking free right now.

There would have been a warrant for their arrest.

How is one able to shoot someone unarmed 17 times and is still walking free?

You can still have a fair trial but the entire protocol was not done the way it normally is.

The officer who shot unarmed white teen Dillon Taylor was black and he is still walking free. Hell did not break loose but there have been demonstrations. This was shortly after the shootings in Ferguson. Don't really too heavily on your "ifs". I think that the issue is with police as opposed to the race of the police.

RoxyRollah 10-17-2014 11:10 AM

face palm*

Soulflower 10-17-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1498707)
The officer who shot unarmed white teen Dillon Taylor was black and he is still walking free. Hell did not break loose but there have been demonstrations. This was shortly after the shootings in Ferguson. Don't really too heavily on your "ifs". I think that the issue is with police as opposed to the race of the police.

I think the issue has to do with both.

There is a lot of racial tension down there in Ferguson. I am not sure if you watched the protests but they broadcast a number of videos in which the police were saying racial slurs to the protesters.

RoxyRollah 10-17-2014 12:01 PM

was this before or after they felt it nessecary to put their hands on the police officers.
Like it or not they have a job to do .And it's still illegal to put their hands on them, or kick their police cars.

Soulflower 10-18-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1498725)
was this before or after they felt it nessecary to put their hands on the police officers.
Like it or not they have a job to do .And it's still illegal to put their hands on them, or kick their police cars.


You are right they do have a job to do and there were some disruptive protesters.

However, them being police officers does not give them the right to be disrespectful or violate people's civil rights.

I think whether the protesters were unruly or not, it doesn't excuse anyone calling someone a racial slur.

Neapolitan 10-18-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1498707)
The officer who shot unarmed white teen Dillon Taylor was black and he is still walking free. Hell did not break loose but there have been demonstrations. This was shortly after the shootings in Ferguson. Don't really too heavily on your "ifs". I think that the issue is with police as opposed to the race of the police.

While the officer in the Utah case is African-American and Dillon Taylor was actually half White and half Spanish, I don't think it was racially motivated. I think that incident happened 3 days after the Ferguson incident where an officer (was allegedly assailed by a teen then) used deadly force. Actually I don't think either case is racially motivated. I understand that those incidents can be incorporated in one's views on race but I don't think it is too healthy to do so, to see them as racial when their is no proof of the officers intention other than following what they were taught. I imagine those incidents are tragic for family and friends and the victim; and are (emotionally) hard to handle for the officers involved as well.

Machine 10-18-2014 08:35 PM

Well I know this is a serious topic, but seeing as this is a music form there's kind of a perfect song for it.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sLg5POTvVzs

Scarlett O'Hara 10-18-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1498639)
Oddly enough the US judicial system waits until the grand jury investigation or trial concludes to put people in jail. Weird I know.

:laughing:

Ikr.

Soulflower 10-19-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1499307)
While the officer in the Utah case is African-American and Dillon Taylor was actually half White and half Spanish, I don't think it was racially motivated. I think that incident happened 3 days after the Ferguson incident where an officer (was allegedly assailed by a teen then) used deadly force. Actually I don't think either case is racially motivated. I understand that those incidents can be incorporated in one's views on race but I don't think it is too healthy to do so, to see them as racial when their is no proof of the officers intention other than following what they were taught. I imagine those incidents are tragic for family and friends and the victim; and are (emotionally) hard to handle for the officers involved as well.


You are right.

It is arguable whether the cop shot the black teen because of his race or not.

However,

There is no doubt that the way the protesters were treated and the entire protocol for how this investigation has been handled has definitely been driven by race/racism.


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