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01-09-2015 04:28 PM |
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Originally Posted by Oriphiel
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Common sense? Hold on a second... do you really think that these journalists didn't have common sense? Do you really think that they didn't know what they were doing, by criticizing one of the most dangerous groups on earth? Nuts to that. They knew exactly what they were doing. They were standing up to a group that routinely murders people, the only way they knew how; by using their talents as cartoonists/journalists. They put their lives on the line to show the world that people don't have to submit to bullies, and all you and Trollheart have to say is that they're foolish for having prodded the hypothetical hornet's nest?
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They were practising the concept of free speech, regardless of the consequences. Of course they weren't expecting to be killed for their opinions but it must've lingered in their minds, but surely common sense should prevail when their opinions put them into a high risk category as this did. The magazine criticizes various groups, but most groups are not going to resort to murder to show their disdain for what has been written. Extremists/terrorist or whatever you want to call them, operate on their own agenda and yes the writers and those involved in the magazine should've been aware of this and used common sense and backed off what they were doing, didn't they like get death threats?
Also Who do you think is going to protect them from the vengeance of these terrorists, the police? the army or perhaps the anti-terrorist squad there? Nobody is going to protect them properly and again they should've been aware of that.
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Those hornets were going to sting people regardless of what anyone did. At least these journalists did what everyone else was too afraid to do, and took the first step in removing the nest. Terrorism groups should be shunned and held responsible for their actions.
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Remove a terrorist nest and another one springs up, You're not dealing with a tinpot regime here, where if you remove the head the whole rotten structure comes tumbling down, but with an idealogy that seems to have limitless fanatics willing to die for it, how can you possibly combat that?
Also going on about terrorists in this case being held for their actions is ridiculous as well, as these people just don't give a **** about being caught or dying for their cause. People can only be held responsible for their actions if they fear death or incarceration, these people are willing to blow themselves up for their cause, so death in battle or a prison sentence is hardly going to deter them. The only way to deal with terrorists is to either eliminate the cause that they're fighting for (which is an issue in itself) or reach a compromise if they're the more amenable type...... like they're just in it for the money.
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Basically, our arguments come from our differing ideologies. I have nothing but sympathy for people who suffer simply for expressing themselves. You both obviously think that expression should have limits, which is reasonable. But as long as people don't abuse their right to express themselves by using it to hurt others
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But that's just it, hurting others is just not done physically but in a critical manner as well as was supposedly done here.
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which these journalists didn't do, how can you be so cavalier about their deaths, heavily implying that they "had it coming"?
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If I was to walk down the road wearing a blue football top, in a street that was dominated by fans of a team that wore a red football top and the rivalry between the two was hateful, I wouldn't be surprised if I got beaten up.
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