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Old 01-12-2015, 09:49 AM   #261 (permalink)
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but the basic dynamic is this: extortioner threatens violence, extortion appeaser complies to avoid violence, freedom-fighter tells extortioner to **** off out of principle.
You need to be more accurate as you've generalised too much.

So who's the extortioner here? The West, the muslim terrorists, the American freedom fighters of the British Empire, as a case can be made towards all of them, even though extortion is probably not the best word to use here.
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:57 AM   #262 (permalink)
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Well, that was a fun catch up.

And in other news:

Nine days later, bodies still litter bushes from Boko Haram's 'deadliest' massacre - CNN.com

Lots of pure evil in the world.
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:59 AM   #263 (permalink)
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You need to be more accurate as you've generalised too much.

So who's the extortioner here? The West, the muslim terrorists, the American freedom fighters of the British Empire, as a case can be made towards all of them, even though extortion is probably not the best word to use here.
i thought it was pretty simple. the extortion is that either you don't insult islam or you are confronted with violence. extortion isn't the best word cause it usually involves money but i think the analogy works alright here.
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It's not extortion. It's stupidity.

Let's say you have a muscle bound nasty Harley biker living across the street from you.

Are you going to post a sign on your front lawn that reads "Harley Dudes are P*ssies", just because it's within your rights to do so?
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no, but lets say i have a harley neighbor who decides he's gonna police what can be said about harleys or else i'm gonna get roughed up. then yea i'm gonna make an issue out of it.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:13 AM   #266 (permalink)
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i thought it was pretty simple. the extortion is that either you don't insult islam or you are confronted with violence. extortion isn't the best word cause it usually involves money but i think the analogy works alright here.
Well you've totally beaten your own argument there, as they say give 'em enough rope.

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no, but lets say i have a harley neighbor who decides he's gonna police what can be said about harleys or else i'm gonna get roughed up. then yea i'm gonna make an issue out of it.
Chula's definition was pretty much straight to the point and yet again you've twisted that definition into some free speech agenda.
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Well you've totally beaten your own argument there, as they say give 'em enough rope.
the logic works the same with or without money. it's an analogy not a literal description. stop being dense.



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Chula's definition was pretty much straight to the point and yet again you've twisted that definition into some free speech agenda.
i didn't twist **** just made it more accurate.

i never was the one to say let's get muslims upset over some **** for fun. but if somebody says something along the lines of hey if you piss us off it's gonna lead to violence, i'm gonna take that as a threat and instead of caving in and rewarding their threats i'm going to stand my ground and say no, i'm not having that ****.
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no, but lets say i have a harley neighbor who decides he's gonna police what can be said about harleys or else i'm gonna get roughed up. then yea i'm gonna make an issue out of it.
Violent Radical Islamic Terrorism is what it is. That's a fact. There's no changing it. It is here to stay.

It's like some folks wanna complain that the razor is too sharp after they get cut, or the fire is too hot after they get burned.

Duh.
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the logic works the same with or without money. it's an analogy not a literal description.
Well you haven't really used it that well have you, so we'll leave it at that, as you seem to be getting your knickers in a twist over it.

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i never was the one to say let's get muslims upset over some **** for fun. but if somebody says something along the lines of hey if you piss us off it's gonna lead to violence, i'm gonna take that as a threat and instead of caving in and rewarding their threats i'm going to stand my ground and say no, i'm not having that ****.
..... as one caveman said to other, before he bashed the other's brains out.
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After we finally managed to end the argument, it just starts right back up again... Oh well. I'll grab the popcorn.
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