Frownland

Plants are so smart.

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Xurtio

Well, John Wilkes Booth comes off as a very hetero dude.

I hear you, people nail stereotypes to you and don't let you escape them sometimes. After people find out I'm a scientist, they start having all kinds of weird expectations, like I'm not allowed to have subjective feelings about things or something.

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Oriphiel

Not all fruits are edible. In fact, there are many fruits that are poisonous, developing that way specifically to avoid being eaten until they can drop and rot naturally (the rotting skin provides nourishment for the seeds).

Regardless, that's not what i'm talking about. The cells in a plant communicate with each other in a way that is similar to what complex creatures experience as "pain" (although without a nerve system, it is a rather limited response to stimuli). They grow towards the factors that allow it to survive for as long as possible and to the furthest extent of quality (for example, flowers leaning towards sunlight, vines moving in whatever way allows them to latch unto other plants, etc.) Just because a plant can't communicate that it wants to survive doesn't mean that it doesn't want to live as much as any other living creature.

Obviously, you can't feel too much grief for dead plants, or else you'd end up holding a funeral for every broken blade of grass. All i'm saying is that the distinctions we create between living creatures over which we should ingest or not, deciding which "deserves/wants to live more" than the other, are kind of foolish. Still, I feel bad for creatures that feel needless pain, which is why I avoid certain meats/companies until current practices are changed.

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John Wilkes Booth

femme, but i would only want to **** other femme girls as well. don't really see the appeal in tomboys personallyi honestly think i would've been pure hetero had i not been friends with one particular dude when i was a teenager. i am honestly pretty close to being straight i think... i have a pretty strong preference for women... but i'm pretty open minded sexually

most non-straights seem to think you are born that way, and i think some are. but honestly i think sexuality is not as static as mostly would tend to believe. that movie about kensey sort of touches on this as well. not sure how accurate it was to kensey's real theories, as i haven't really looked into his work much.

Chula Vista

My mom told me she was attracted to women from the earliest she could remember.

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well the thread was basically questioning the moral distinction between financially supporting factory farming through the consumption of meat (which is arguably a pretty cruel process) for the sake of pleasing your tastebuds (as you don't really need to eat meat to survive anymore if you live in a developed country and have even a modest income) and having sex with animals for the sake of satiating one's perverse sexual desires. basically, the argument is that i don't believe animals truly do have any real 'rights' to speak of. at least not in any consistent sense. so talking about needing their 'consent' is really quite silly when you think about it. we don't need their consent to murder them or exploit them in a variety of other ways, yet we need their consent to sexually exploit them? it's just a bit silly to me. but i honestly don't really care that much anymore. it was just a thought i had some months ago. i'm not about to march on washington for some pervert's right to **** sheep any time soon. i just get a kick out of questioning cultural taboos.

John Wilkes Booth

that's cool. but my friend who is gay told me he wasn't attracted to guys in his early childhood. and i know i was straight until i was about 14-16. so like i said it might not be a black or white question.

ladyislingering

I'd blow a transgirl.

Many moons ago I made out with my sweetie while he was dolled up like a lady. A+. 10/10. Would do a thousand times.

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Xurtio

There's both a genetic component and a social component. But the social component is predicated on open-mindedness, which may, itself, have a strong genetic component.

Anyway, I don't really get the moral argument that people use this for; whether they were born that way or chose to be that way, it's a right they should be allowed.

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John Wilkes Booth

^i agree. same with ****ing sheep imo.