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Old 01-21-2015, 06:27 AM   #71 (permalink)
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you would have to read my thread....the whole consent point is completely convoluted imo
Actually, it's fairly straightforward. The vast majority of animals lack the physical ability to display consent to a human, as well as the intelligence required to fully understand the situation, and our differences in anatomy would only cause serious pain to the animal.

Although, apparently dolphins (who are very intelligent) love to go around raping other animals, including humans. Those squeaky little masochists.
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are you a vegan?
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:44 AM   #73 (permalink)
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omg why cant u shut up about butt humping little baby lambs.Why.Why. You need help.
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i didn't bring it up.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:38 AM   #75 (permalink)
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are you a vegan?
No, not even remotely. But just because I eat meat doesn't mean that I support the people who try to pound that meat.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:56 AM   #76 (permalink)
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omg why cant u shut up about butt humping little baby lambs.Why.Why. You need help.
Yeah, at least wait till they're adult sheep, ya pedophile.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:26 AM   #77 (permalink)
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No, not even remotely. But just because I eat meat doesn't mean that I support the people who try to pound that meat.
Seriously go read the thread, it extends beyond bestiality. Animals can't consent to you slaughtering them but you're okay with that.

/end discussion, if you'd like to comment after reading the discussion then do it there
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:49 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Seriously go read the thread, it extends beyond bestiality. Animals can't consent to you slaughtering them but you're okay with that.

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Neither do plants, or other living creatures that display time and again that they'd rather live than die, but we humans have to eat something to survive. As long as the methods are humane, and the animals are given decent lives (as well as the method of slaughtering being as painless as possible, which is why I rarely eat pork), then modern consumption of meat is pretty much just an extension of the hunting/meat eating that allowed humanity to survive more adequately to the point where we could develop the ground-work for society as we know it.

And yes, I know I could respond in the creepy animal thread, but it's a dead thread and I don't want to necro-bump it. And honestly, why not just talk about it here? A decent conversation would actually make this thread worth reading, instead of just being the big joke that everyone is treating it as.
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:13 AM   #79 (permalink)
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I'll bite since this thread does suck but don't expect much after this response.

I was gonna bump it for you but I forgot it's locked. All your statements above are discussed in the thread. If it's only a matter of consent as you claim your stance is, than how do you feel about allowing animals to f*ck you when uncoerced. Clearly their desire to do so is enough to be considered consent, so is it still wrong?

Your "fairly straightforward" argument gets thrown out the window with that one question. If it was so straightforward it wouldn't have created multiple pages of discussion and arguing.
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:32 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I'll bite since this thread does suck but don't expect much after this response.

I was gonna bump it for you but I forgot it's locked. All your statements above are discussed in the thread. If it's only a matter of consent as you claim your stance is, than how do you feel about allowing animals to f*ck you when uncoerced. Clearly their desire to do so is enough to be considered consent, so is it still wrong?

Your "fairly straightforward" argument gets thrown out the window with that one question. If it was so straightforward it wouldn't have created multiple pages of discussion and arguing.
First of all, animals use rape as a form of asserting dominance. That's usually what's going on when an animal tries to have sex with you. And since there's no way to effectively communicate with animals on such matters, there is no way to tell what their motives are in a given situation, and even if you thought an animal was "consenting" there is no possible way to know for sure. Even intelligent and hyper sexual animals like dolphins have no possible way of accurately conveying such desires, while simultaneously displaying that they're making an informed decision. So yeah, it actually is still a fairly straightforward issue.

When a living being doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand what they're committing to, or simply has no way of reasonably conveying their desires without doubt, they can not give consent. This is the same reason for why having sex with someone who has certain mental illnesses/disabilities is considered rape. If a severely mentally handicapped person started trying to have sex with you, you have an obligation to get out of the situation without goading them on, and if you don't and simply sit back and allow things to unfold, you're raping them. The same principle applies to animals.
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