Manners
 

Lately I've been ridiculously irritated with many people I come into contact with on a daily basis.

I don't think I've ever noticed it before in such great numbers, but most people have no manners whatsoever.

I'm talking about

• accidentally elbowing/slamming shoulders with someone and not saying "I'm sorry" or "excuse me"
• ignoring service workers like they're vermin scanning your shitty groceries
• letting doors slam in front of others who aren't that far away from you, rather than just waiting and holding it open like a decent human
• making unintelligible grunting sounds as a form of acknowledgement
• not using your ****ing goddamn blinkers
• exiting public transit without thanking the driver
• not saying "please" and "thank you" at bare minimum

and just little things that are destroying sensible, common courtesy.

How do you feel about manners?

what, like a bus? i didn't realize this was an obligation

i rarely ever see anyone say anything to the driver on the way off the bus so i figured that was normal

can i ask why this is necessary? i genuinely don't understand the importance of thanking a bus driver. if i was the bus driver i wouldn't get anything out of people saying thank you to me all day, it would just be some ritualistic formality that ultimately means nothing.

Thanking a bus driver is nice considering they do everything they can to get you where you need to be. I honestly find it inappropriate not to thank a driver. Don't wanna appreciate a driver, you can walk ten or twenty miles to get to work.

well no, it's not like they're doing me a personal favor or something. they're just doing their job and i'm paying to ride the bus, so that's a stupid ultimatum.

i'm not saying i have some sort of stance against saying thanks to them but i usually never see people do it so i honestly didn't think about it.

With that mindset, we shouldn't thank cashiers or any workers that work with the public.

it seems different because you have to interact with them, so saying thanks comes naturally.the buses i ride in florida have doors in the back and the front. so half the time you go out the back door and aren't even near the bus driver. plus the bus is full of people who are mostly not talking to each other. it's just not a very personal interaction.

It's kind to thank the driver for getting you there alive, for doing a good job. They are offering a service to you. You ought to be grateful.

i suppose it's a difference in mentality

i don't understand why people feel the need to acknowledge each other constantly. i mostly try to follow whatever conventions everyone else seems to be following when it comes to manners irl because it seems like most people have a different mindset than me.

if i was driving the bus i would honestly prefer people only talk to me if they had an actual question or something. forcing me to interact on a constant basis does nothing other than draw me out of whatever thought i was having momentarily and really does nothing for me in terms of establishing some sort of bond. that only happens for me if we have an actual meaningful discussion about something.

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actually i see that differently since the convention is that you typically do tip for service in certain industries. i don't tip out of genuine gratitude, though. i do it because i understand it's part of the deal.

the other day I gave a cocktail waitress a 60% tip because she was hot as hell and serving me liquor :laughing:

but I need to be better at tipping in general.:shycouch:

It's all good! It's just that whenever someone says something along the lines of "Why should I thank/tip someone for doing their job?", I immediately think of that scene from Reservoir Dogs. :yeah:

RE: thanking the bus driver - I only recently started taking advantage of the amazing public transit where I am, and had never before considered it being a staple of public etiquette, but it automatically seemed second nature.

i suppose floridians are *******s. i will say thanks next time i guess. i honestly don't take public transit very often.

Manners are only a quality I really care about in a person I'm interested in. I don't mind if people are rude to me, or don't show appreciation, but it is something I'll remember. I say please and thank you, and "have a nice day" all the time. I enjoy being friendly and considerate towards others.

i honestly like it when strangers ignore me. i don't consider it rude at all, so long as their ignoring doesn't affect me in any way.

for example if i'm walking past someone and we don't acknowledge each other whatsoever. that's the way i'd prefer it.

but i dislike people who ignore me when they get in my way. especially in walmart. especially plus sized and/or elderly slow moving people in walmart.

Some bus drivers can be more crabby than you are on a bad day. The secret is to say "hello" when you step on the bus. If the bus driver is nice, he or she will respond in like fashion. They are the bus drivers to thank. If they act snooty or crabby then exit by the side doors to avoid the situation of saying "thank you" all together. \

edit: You can also improv, you don't always have to say "thank you" - "be safe, take care, good evening" are good alternatives.

same, but it pisses me off when someone fucking bodychecks me and doesn't even say "oops" or "excuse me"

like good for you, you fucking cow, you moved your ass from point A to point B in the most livestock-esque fashion possible

This also^ Unless I'm at work where I am expected to greet strangers I don't talk to people I don't know, and I'd rather they never talk to me.

:laughing: I only get pissed when my customers don't make conversation with me if I have to reach in front of them or cross their path in a way that inconveniences them.

even if I could bitchslap them to goddamn Neptune, I'd still want to hit them with a shovel.

yea i would consider that rude as well

people do it all the time around here for some reason. :mad:

who the fuck is responsible for this shit?!

I've always done it even if the bus driver isn't nice, because a simple thank you could make someones day better.

It's not something that's required per say, but I suppose I was raised to say please and thank you to anyone who helped me out, even if it is riding a bus. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, especially if it's not proper etiquette where you're from, it just always seems like it's better to say thank you than to not say thank you. However, most times, the bus drivers don't really respond, so I do see where you're coming from when you say they don't really care either way. It's more for a personal thing with me, really.

Maybe cause your little Lil. People don't bump into me, and when they do they're usually the ones stumbling over. My suggestions to you is get fat.

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it means a lot to me when my customers realize the impact that my service has, when they tell me "wow this store is organized so well" or "you girls work so hard!" because it makes me feel like what I'm doing is important, appreciated, and not wasted on a bunch of ****head consumer zombies.

public service announcement: THANK SERVICE WORKERS. PLEASE.

I'm little 'cause I'm little!! 5 feet and four inches of slender innocence & fury!!

But good golly you'd think they'd be concerned smashing into someone little.

Can someone explain to me the elbows on the table thing? Who gives a **** about putting your elbows on the table? What possible benefit can it serve to keep them off?

I never understood this either. I really don't see how it's disrespectful. It's not like your putting your dick on the table or anything.

Fuck's sake, I HATE the elbows on the table thing.

if you're having dinner, keep your damn elbows off the table. don't be a slob. keep your hands in your lap when they're not being used to shovel food in.

Maybe it's just 'cause my grandparents were strict about this, so I was affected by it, but OH MY GOD it is so irritating!!

You have to logically justify it, or else you're just being a mindless slave to tradition.

I know that it's completely irrational nowadays but I assume that it was considered offensive to put your elbows on the table back in the day because people didn't wash up to such a point, and after working in the fields, the wife didn't want a man's dirty elbows on the kitchen table.

You know, people do tend to wash their elbows these days.

my irritation with elbow-diners is just secondhand irritation from my grandparents :laughing:

Sometimes space is a commodity on a table and someone's elbow is unnecessarily is taking up space. Having table manners is about making the other person feel comfortable, and not imposing on them, or being annoying.

Well that clears that right up.

Aw man, and I wanted to argue some more.

Wait, I've got it! What if there's a big table? His argument then falls apart at the seams.

Ah yes, and what if the people you are eating with don't have arms? What say you now, Neapolitan?

What's with guys and not taking the stall next to other guys. Who cares if I look over for a second or two? I'm not hurting anyone.