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John Wilkes Booth 03-31-2015 11:37 AM

i do feel like the less intelligent an animal is, the more you can morally justify not valuing its life enough to kill it for consumption, while still feeling like a sensitive pussy who empathizes with lower lifeforms. even vegans kill other life forms to eat, they just leave animals alone cause they feel animals are too intelligent. so already you've introduced the concept that intelligence is the deciding factor for whether a life form can be consumed. and since there are varying levels of intelligence it makes sense that there are a number of possible places where you can draw that line, depending on how sensitive you are. everyone draws a line somewhere, except cannibals, who are just straight up gangster like that.

i wonder what the least intelligent animal we eat is. by we i mean westerners. cause i know chinese people like to eat bugs and ****, which is pretty humane of them i must say.

Plankton 03-31-2015 11:44 AM

I can still beat mine on Friday right?

Cuthbert 03-31-2015 12:46 PM

Nothing wrong with eating meat imo. Provided it's done in keeping with the populations of species within a particular ecosystem and you don't over hunt or put them in danger and it's humane as possible then yeh.

John Wilkes Booth 03-31-2015 12:48 PM

i mean i do it too don't get me wrong

Black Francis 03-31-2015 01:15 PM

Being Holy week the market i work in put the salmon on special so i stucked up on that. i also stocked up on Bacalao (Cod) cause they had em on special too.

RoxyRollah 03-31-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1571622)
I can still beat mine on Friday right?

Beat it like it owes you sumthin.

Trollheart 03-31-2015 02:26 PM

I love the way the OP assumes we're all Christians. Some of us are not. Those of us who are not can eat what we ****ing like pal.

Chula Vista 03-31-2015 02:32 PM

Couple of great new avatars!

Pet_Sounds 03-31-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1571661)
I love the way the OP assumes we're all incredibly devoted Catholics. Some of us are not. Those of us who are not can eat what we ****ing like pal.

ftfy

Black Francis 03-31-2015 02:42 PM

I personally don't follow it for christians belief, i do it mostly out of tradition.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1571663)
Couple of great new avatars!

Ikr? i almost forgot the subject of the thread when i saw them.

The Batlord 03-31-2015 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1571619)
i do feel like the less intelligent an animal is, the more you can morally justify not valuing its life enough to kill it for consumption, while still feeling like a sensitive pussy who empathizes with lower lifeforms. even vegans kill other life forms to eat, they just leave animals alone cause they feel animals are too intelligent. so already you've introduced the concept that intelligence is the deciding factor for whether a life form can be consumed. and since there are varying levels of intelligence it makes sense that there are a number of possible places where you can draw that line, depending on how sensitive you are. everyone draws a line somewhere, except cannibals, who are just straight up gangster like that.

i wonder what the least intelligent animal we eat is. by we i mean westerners. cause i know chinese people like to eat bugs and ****, which is pretty humane of them i must say.

:laughing:

Xurtio 03-31-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis (Post 1571640)
Nothing wrong with eating meat imo. Provided it's done in keeping with the populations of species within a particular ecosystem and you don't over hunt or put them in danger and it's humane as possible then yeh.

Most meat is bred, slaved, and slaughtered in an inhumane fashion, not hunted in the wild and prayed over next to a creek.

Not that I don't eat said meat. The more inhumane, usually, the more affordable.

Cuthbert 04-01-2015 07:10 AM

Yeah I'm under no Illusions as to what goes on, I don't agree with it but I will still eat it. I'm not sure what my line would be really.

DwnWthVwls 04-01-2015 07:27 AM

So would any of you eat meat not normally consumed in the US if you were in another country?

Dog? Horse? etc

I'd try it.

Cuthbert 04-01-2015 07:39 AM

Defo. Can't understand why horse is so taboo in the UK. People will eat kebab meat and 'chicken' nuggets but we don't sell fresh, healthy horse meat (with the customer's consent) :confused:

I'd try dog but reckon it would taste like the wet dog smell.

Xurtio 04-01-2015 08:20 AM

I imagine horse and dog being too lean and musky, like venison (deer) which I have actually hunted and eaten; it's not near as good as beef, chicken, and pork. Though I have an uncle that makes a killer venison pepperoni.

Chula Vista 04-01-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1571858)
So would any of you eat meat not normally consumed in the US if you were in another country?

I've eaten all kinds of weird **** traveling through parts of China that hadn't yet developed to cater to Western tastes. Most of the time I wouldn't ask but I know I've had eel, pigeon, and wild dog.

John Wilkes Booth 04-01-2015 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis (Post 1571862)
Defo. Can't understand why horse is so taboo in the UK. People will eat kebab meat and 'chicken' nuggets but we don't sell fresh, healthy horse meat (with the customer's consent) :confused:

I'd try dog but reckon it would taste like the wet dog smell.

i agree. i remember there was some controversy over jack in the bucket or some place like that serving horse meat here and telling people it was beef. i mean businesses should be honest in what they're selling but beyond that i don't see the difference between eating a horse or a cow. if it comes out good then the **** do i care which animal it was?

i remember some rednecks in florida gave my parents alligator meat and they had me try it and they told me it was chicken. then after they were like nah it's actually alligator. and i was like why didn't you just say it was alligator then? it really doesn't bother me.

where i draw the line is probably just eating bugs and **** like that. not morally i just think it's gross for irrational human reasons.

Cuthbert 04-01-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1571892)
i agree. i remember there was some controversy over jack in the bucket or some place like that serving horse meat here and telling people it was beef. i mean businesses should be honest in what they're selling but beyond that i don't see the difference between eating a horse or a cow. if it comes out good then the **** do i care which animal it was?

Something similar happened here as well. Think it was frozen food/ready meals but basically the same thing.

In some parts of Europe they would be complaining that we were getting horse for the same price as beef :D

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i remember some rednecks in florida gave my parents alligator meat and they had me try it and they told me it was chicken. then after they were like nah it's actually alligator. and i was like why didn't you just say it was alligator then? it really doesn't bother me.

where i draw the line is probably just eating bugs and **** like that. not morally i just think it's gross for irrational human reasons.
I would try bugs, witchetty grubs are meant to be nice and scorpions look interesting. There is tonnes of stuff I would like to eat after seeing it eaten on survival programs.

Alligator is up there, also snake. Apparently they're all edible, meant to be decent meat. Cow's blood too, saw some tribe in Africa do it, where they fire an arrow into it's neck, bleed it and then heal the cow no harm done. Reckon I'd like it.

Had frog's legs once as my cousins dad is French and he brought them over. They are delicious.

Plankton 04-01-2015 09:40 AM

I've had Alligator, and although it did have similar characteristics of chicken, it was quite gamey. Even after soaking it in coca cola for a couple of hours. I've been here a few times too:

wild game, Czimer's Game & Seafood, Inc. Homer Glen, IL Home

Although, I haven't ventured past the Alligator and Buffalo yet.

John Wilkes Booth 04-01-2015 09:40 AM

:laughing: you're a ****in savage

i do like frog legs though

Frownland 04-01-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1571885)
I've eaten all kinds of weird **** traveling through parts of China that hadn't yet developed to cater to Western tastes. Most of the time I wouldn't ask but I know I've had eel, pigeon, and wild dog.

I'd probably try whatever out, I'm not too picky of an eater. Eel is ****ing delicious when cooked right though. I'm pretty fond of cabeza burritos, where they take cow meat from the cheeks of the animal; it's really tender, but kind of fatty.

Plankton 04-02-2015 07:45 AM

Hmmm... wonder what Jiminy Cricket tastes like?

http://guidelive.imgix.net/142780716...0&or=0&fm=webp

Plankton 04-02-2015 07:47 AM

Then, there's this too:

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps2jripinh.jpg

Xurtio 04-02-2015 09:22 AM

Barbecue Eel (unagi) is my favorite sushi dish. Dat sauce.

Chula Vista 04-02-2015 09:35 AM

When I ate eel is was in a thick stew which was delicious.

Cuthbert 04-02-2015 10:32 AM

I haven't eaten eel but gonna try cos I'm planning on doing pie & mash with liquor and jellied eels soon.

http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slide...-faversham.jpg

Trollheart 04-02-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis (Post 1571900)
Something similar happened here as well. Think it was frozen food/ready meals but basically the same thing.

In some parts of Europe they would be complaining that we were getting horse for the same price as beef :D

The trouble with that was the drugs horses gets given; people were scaredt that these drugs were in the meat and though the percentage was very low as was the likelihood, it was still a worry.

I would absolutely not eat dog or cat: I could not eat anything that I once had as a pet. it would be close to cannibalism to me, and how could I face my pet afterwards?

Plankton 04-02-2015 11:38 AM

I worked as a farm hand for a while some years ago. I used to have fun with the pigs they had since they're actually fairly intelligent, and can do some pretty cool things like play fetch, and they can be trained to count and things of that nature. When it came time for slaughter I found I had a hard time going through with it though. The funny part about the whole experience was feeding the scraps/slop bucket to their young.

Cuthbert 04-02-2015 11:39 AM

@TH never knew anything about the drugs and I reckon most didn't either, can't remember anything about that. The only fuss I remember was cos it was specifically the meat of a horse.

Why are the British revolted by the idea of horsemeat? - BBC News

They mentioned 'cute' in that article but it's basically what I was gonna post, people see them as cute and cuddly pets and not dinner.

Frownland 04-02-2015 11:41 AM

Drugs in horsemeat sounds like a dumb media panic to me.

Xurtio 04-02-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1572307)
Drugs in horsemeat sounds like a dumb media panic to me.

I think the concern is that, in the West, because horses aren't expected to be eaten, more dangerous hormones (and probably even illegal drugs for competitive horses) are more likely to be used on them, whereas cattle raised for slaughter are under tighter regulations and a reasonable expectation that it will be consumed by humans.

The Batlord 04-02-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis (Post 1572280)
I haven't eaten eel but gonna try cos I'm planning on doing pie & mash with liquor and jellied eels soon.

http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slide...-faversham.jpg

That literally looks like vomit.

Frownland 04-02-2015 05:04 PM

I think it figuratively looks like pond muck.

Mondo Bungle 04-02-2015 05:06 PM

I'm all for some eel but liquor is terrible and I wouldn't want to do that

Frownland 04-02-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1572363)
I'm all for some eel but liquor is terrible and I wouldn't want to do that

You're a terrible catholic.

Cuthbert 04-02-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1572361)
That literally looks like vomit.

I can see why you'd think that but it's meant to be really nice. :)

LoathsomePete 04-02-2015 08:51 PM

Bollocks to that, I just started cooking some ribs in a slow cooker.

RoxyRollah 04-02-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1572404)
Bollocks to that, I just started cooking some ribs in a slow cooker.

Did you use a rub?

The Batlord 04-02-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1572405)
Did you use a rub?

Who doesn't? http://www.atheistnetwork2.com/image...ace_smiley.png


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