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Old 04-09-2015, 12:03 PM   #171 (permalink)
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That's the one, knew it was something like that. Do you have an interest in this at all mate?
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What I don't get is how some people mock other people because they believe in a God.
I don't mock people who believe in a God. I mock people who take the Bible 100% literally, and are unwilling to believe that a lot of it is mythology.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:33 PM   #172 (permalink)
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roxy i'm sorry you don't like my approach but i don't think you get me as well as you might think. i have been to church plenty of times and i don't ask them any questions. usually it's the other way around and they see a new face and try to convert me and when that doesn't work then they just look at me like well wtf are you doing here then.

if it seemed like i was only interested in hearing about the cult **** because i find cults interesting rather than trying to get to know you that's cause that's exactly right. nothing personal, but i just have a varying degree of interest in things in this world and cults rank pretty high for me where as whatever your favorite bands are or whatever rank not quite as high. call it a matter of taste i guess.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:35 PM   #173 (permalink)
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What I don't get is how some people mock other people because they believe in a God, and blast them for using inductive reasoning to explain how they came to believe in a God, then turn around and say "aliens, oh yeah totally possible, just use inductive reasoning."

I want actual undeniable certifiable physical proof that aliens exist before I concur that there are physical extraterritorial sentient intelligent beings in the universe.
The existence of life is self-evident, and the more we learn about the universe and the chance that life might exist on other worlds, the more the likelihood of their not existing becomes implausible.

However, the existence of any being that would qualify as a deity is only attested to in books of dubious origin, claims by people of dubious sanity, and the belief of many other people who are basically just guessing. Not only that, but our observations of the universe have never shown that there is any need for it to have been created or "guided along" by an intelligent being.\

And your new avatar is beyond awful.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:54 PM   #174 (permalink)
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with aliens we have at least one precedent to draw on which is the fact that life exists on earth

with god we have no precedents to draw upon because we don't know whether this universe was created or not

but i think the idea that it could have been created is at least a plausible possibility

where as the stories about the seas being parted and **** like that is a lot more dubious because **** like that never seems to happen anymore and the only record we have of it happening are in ancient stories that can't be proven to have actually occurred
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where as the stories about the seas being parted
Love how this guy completely destroys the whole Noah's Ark fable.

Problems with a Global Flood, 2nd edition

I forwarded this to a person who 100% believes the bible and his answer was that "But it was God. He can do anything."
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:31 PM   #176 (permalink)
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Flood myths are common in different religions, I wonder why. Maybe floods were lot more impactful on agricultural living before industry and commerce.
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Flood myths are common in different religions, I wonder why.
Yes, heck the writers of the bible pretty much plagiarized the Noah myth from the earlier Galgamesh flood stories.

As to why, it's centered around the "cleansing of mankind" via the flood waters.
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What I don't get is how some people mock other people because they believe in a God, and blast them for using inductive reasoning to explain how they came to believe in a God, then turn around and say "aliens, oh yeah totally possible, just use inductive reasoning."

I want actual undeniable certifiable physical proof that aliens exist before I concur that there are physical extraterritorial sentient intelligent beings in the universe.
Based on everything we know about the system around us, alien life is completely reasonable conclusion. There is no logical way to connect the existence of a Godlike entity based on what science can currently offer us (if there is please enlighten me).
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There is no logical way to connect the existence of a Godlike entity based on what science can currently offer us (if there is please enlighten me).
Actually it's totally logical to completely disbelieve in a supernatural God based on what we currently know.

A spiritual God is perfectly viable though since it's a matter personal faith.
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Actually it's totally logical to completely disbelieve in a supernatural God based on what we currently know.

A spiritual God is perfectly viable though since it's a matter personal faith.
Well, you can't prove a negative, so it's a reasonable criticism against anti-theists when people talk about a god, in general. But when people start making specific claims about reality based on their religion (and thus, their god) it becomes easier for skeptics to debunk.
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