Ireland goes to the polls for a referendum: same sex marriage

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-22-2015, 11:01 AM

Any gay man who votes for marriage doesn't realise how good he has it.

Trollheart · 05-22-2015, 12:22 PM

Obviously you're being deliberately facetious, but the reality is that marriage confers a whole lot of rights on a same-sex couple that they would not have otherwise, such as adoption, mortgage, etc. Every same sex couple interviewed so far has seemed to think they will have things much better if their union is recognised in the constitution. So more power to them.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 05-22-2015, 05:39 PM

i believe marriage is between a man and 2 or more women, the way god intended.

Xurtio · 05-22-2015, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Any gay man who votes for marriage doesn't realise how good he has it.

The fundamental problem is monogamy.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 05-22-2015, 06:20 PM

^yea, i agree

in my own experience, anyway

though i know other people who seem to manage it alright

edit - sort of on topic - imo it is a bit strange when you think about it, the concept of same sex marriage. since monogamy in heterosexual relationships basically stems from a pair bonding mating strategy for the purpose of rearing children... why do (many) homosexual relationships also value monogamy?

fiddler · 05-22-2015, 06:23 PM

It's all about finding the balance that works for you and your lover. Getting married offers the rights and privileges that come with it. With of the biggest is if you're hurt or otherwise where you cannot speak for yourself. Your bf/gf doesn't have a say...but your spouse does.

Xurtio · 05-22-2015, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

^yea, i agree

in my own experience, anyway

though i know other people who seem to manage it alright

edit - sort of on topic - imo it is a bit strange when you think about it, the concept of same sex marriage. since monogamy in heterosexual relationships basically stems from a pair bonding mating strategy for the purpose of rearing children... why do (many) homosexual relationships also value monogamy?

Probably because they were raised in a monogamist society and that was their relationship model growing up.

Xurtio · 05-22-2015, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiddler

It's all about finding the balance that works for you and your lover. Getting married offers the rights and privileges that come with it. With of the biggest is if you're hurt or otherwise where you cannot speak for yourself. Your bf/gf doesn't have a say...but your spouse does.

You can be both married and non-monogamous. My wife and I are married (obviously) with two kids. We attend orgies and swinger parties and have just recently started seeing people on our own.

I think it's usually referred to as Polyamory with a primary partner.

fiddler · 05-23-2015, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

You can be both married and non-monogamous. My wife and I are married (obviously) with two kids. We attend orgies and swinger parties and have just recently started seeing people on our own.

I think it's usually referred to as Polyamory with a primary partner.

Yes, I'm aware, I didn't say that you couldn't. I said, you have to find the balance that works for you. This works for some, not all.

**Janszoon** · 05-23-2015, 04:17 AM

So, did it pass or what?

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fiddler Music Addict Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 242	It's all about finding the balance that works for you and your lover. Getting married offers the rights and privileges that come with it. With of the biggest is if you're hurt or otherwise where you cannot speak for yourself. Your bf/gf doesn't have a say...but your spouse does.