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fiddler 05-26-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1594068)
Why would I prosecute myself? That's not my job. That's your job, and like I already said, do your fucking job. If I get caught I'll own it, I understand the consequences of my actions and take part willingly.

Oh, I do do my job. It was a hypothetical situation to prove that your sense of morals isn't as strong as it seems to be. Because if you expect us to enforce the laws equally without picking and choosing, so when it applies to you, it should be said that you would stick to your morals. After all, right is right and wrong is wrong. The problem with this argument is that it leaves no gray area, and in law there is a LOT of gray area. Roxy could tell you that, she'll be studying criminal law or so.

Your main point is for cops to be fair, consistent, and not to abuse the power, yes? Good, we agree.

DwnWthVwls 05-26-2015 09:49 AM

This isn't an issue of morality. I am not a representative of the law, it is not my duty to uphold the law. It IS yours, that's what YOU signed up for. Not me.

I didn't take an oath to be a law abiding citizen. I didn't sign a paper saying I wouldn't break the law. I follow laws because I agree with them not because they are laws. I break laws because I disagree with them not because I want to get in trouble.

If we agree then next time we talk about the drunkin assholes you handle on base I hope you don't wait until morning to "deal with it" to avoid the hassle of paperwork.

Chula Vista 05-26-2015 10:24 AM

Sorry, but IMO you're being a bit of a dick DWV.

DwnWthVwls 05-26-2015 10:30 AM

How so? I'm not attacking Fiddler. He asked me how I feel about a certain scenario. I thought we were having a pretty good back and fourth. Would your rather I lie about how I feel about a sensitive topic?

You don't have to apologize for your opinion but you could at least explain yourself.

Plankton 05-26-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1594085)
How so?

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1593902)
That's pretty much the epitome of why you suck.

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DwnWthVwls 05-26-2015 10:39 AM

That was a generalization(as was the do your fucking job comment, I meant police in general not Fiddler, which I see I didn't make clear), not a direct attack on Fiddler. And the discussion has long since moved past that.

I did call him a sheep though, so you can ride me for that.

Chula Vista 05-26-2015 10:41 AM

We should all be expected to extend a certain amount of common courtesy to new members, especially if they come off as cool from the get go. Fiddler has been nothing but cool from day one.

DwnWthVwls 05-26-2015 10:46 AM

Fiddler and I have already somewhat discussed this in plug. If you're not comfortable reading a conversation you have no context for understanding then remove yourself. If you are comfortable then contribute to it in a meaningful way, Fiddler is perfectly comfortable speaking his mind to me.

Edit: I already PM'd Jans to move this off topic discussion to a new thread in the debate forums. Just waiting for a response.

Chula Vista 05-26-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1594094)
If you're not comfortable reading a conversation you have no pretense for understanding then remove yourself.

Again, being a dick.

YorkeDaddy 05-26-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1594095)
Again, being a dick.

He's right though, Fiddler doesn't seem offended or anything in any way so I'm not sure why the conversation requires your backseat policing


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