If you can even do it twice I think that's proof enough of your divinity.

Kinda depends on how long it takes between them. Five minutes and you are divine. Twenty minutes, not so much.

I've tried it back-to-back, but could only do it once, and I have no idea how long it took me. It just felt like work.

****ing retard.

GOP candidate Trump goes after Sen. John McCain's war record

He ain't making your job any easier JWB.

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you make my job easy enough as it is, pal

this thread would have died long ago if it weren't for your dedicated support :thumb:

I'm just the messenger. Give your boy Donny all of the props. His fellow GOP minions are slamming the dude HARD after his major league McCain gaff.

Republicans Finally Come Down On Donald Trump

More gaffs to follow. Stay tuned. I'm your reporter on the ground and will bring them to you as they happen.

yea that was a mistake to say that i won't lie... was a pretty gangster diss @ mccain though lol

Gangster? How about ****ing total bush league. I voted against McCain but damn, the man paid his ****ing war dues for christ's sake.

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This is a great thread for Bernie Sanders promotion. Sanders doesn't have the flamboyant image that Trump has, so Sanders needs a Trump thread to ride on the backs of. Then when everyone is done watching the Trump Reality Show , Sanders will be left in their hearts and minds, because he's a man of the people. And he well be another genuine guy like Trump, only a sane one.

Then he will be completely powerless once he gets into office because he's not Machiavellian enough.

i think gangster is a pretty appropriate term... and i'm not going to defend the statements but you know whats stupid about it all... the whole "he's a war hero!" ****.. why is that even a point? ok he's a war hero. that means you can't criticize him about other ****? it's one of those meaningless platitudes the media uses to try to stir **** up

Gangster is just you trying to be your typical Music Banter self.

God you are tap dancing around your golden boy's major **** up.

Trump criticized him specifically about being a war hero.



And once again you use your fallback defense - the media.

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what i think he would need basically is a propaganda wing to combat the right wing detractors that will start on him as soon as he gets in

one that is much more effective than msnbc/the current leftist media

i didn't defend the statements and i said he ****ed up.. what are you going on about? cause i said gangster? it is gangster to say something like "he was captured, i like the ones that weren't captured."

that's pretty standard gangster philosophy

as for the media... i was just saying it seemed like initially he didn't go out and target mccain for being a war hero... they kept pressing him on the fact that he called him a dummy with "but he's a war hero" **** like that means anything. that's not me standing up for his statement.

it's not even me condemning the media

it's me calling a spade a spade.. it was a smart/standard media tactic, a lot of which haven't been working on trump lately, and in this one it seems it did and he fell in the trap

War hero is actually quite an interesting quality for a president. One could reason that it's good to have a President that knows the stakes are high and war is ugly, but most people probably just see it as a sign of strength, like some kind of primitive leadership system is still embedded in society.

yea i mean i'm not saying there's no merit at all to the idea if a war hero president, but that shouldn't be some sort of invisible shield that protects you from criticism when you say something dumb.

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currently watching this.... full speech where the mccain incident happened

His biggest problem (well he's got a bunch of them), is that he'll never admit he did anything wrong. Braggadocio at its finest.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump...495589501.html

Him running has been blast so far. Can't wait for what's to follow. Bring it on Donny!

I think Trump was merely stating that McCain is not a war hero in his view because he was captured (POW), at any right it was a stupid comment, and even if he wins the Republican nomination for 2016, his chances of beating Hillary are probably zilch.

He's completely lost the Hispanic vote with his inflammatory comments, and since African Americans haven't voted Republican since Nixon implemented the southern strategy, he would have to get a huge chunk of the white vote, but the problem with that, is Hillary currently has the women's vote locked up.

I was a big fan of Trump because of his economic policies, but he should have never have made immigration the vocal point of his campaign. It may get him the Republican nomination, but it will cause him to lose the election.

Im black^. I vote republican.(When I vote.) Look whose inflamatory now.;).

i dunno i think if he makes it so far as to become the republican candidate, he at the very least would have a shot at beating hillary...

also hillary has the women on the left, maybe

i seem to meet plenty of women who feel the same way trump does about immigrants here in the south lol. his opinions are hardly even controversial in large percentages of the country. the reason it's causing such a stir is chosing such an angle is pretty risky... most politicians like to play it safe

trump is playing high stakes and high risk

so it could work or it could go bust

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You're killing me man.

I heard about the U.S. extending beyond the south at some point during grade school I think.

Immigration | Gallup Historical Trends

lol... your stance is that outside the south, working class white and black americans don't bitch about illegal immigrants on a regular basis?

people in arizona swamped trump's rallies precisely cause immigration is a massive issue there

i learned that arizona wasn't part of the south in my mother's womb, bitch

Oh come on you can do better than that, man. I think you need to replace the batteries on your inference meter.

Yes but your a minority, African Americans haven't voted for the Republicans in substantial numbers since the Eisenhower administration.

BlackDemographics.com | POLITICS

"Theoretically" I actually think that Trump's economic policies would be the best thing for working class African Americans, because he wants to bring back manufacturing jobs to the now desolate rust belt.

There also needs to be an honest debate within your country as to whether or not continued mass immigration freezes & lowers the wages of blue collar workers and hurts their quality of life, because there is a lots of evidence to suggest that it does, particularly for many African Americans.

I personally would never want to be anti immigration for cultural reasons, but the negative economic impact it may be having on the working class is worrisome for me.

alright... maybe you can just help me out and clarify your point instead of making me play the guessing game. cause tbh i'm hardly holding it together these days

your chart is about a vague attitude toward immigration in general, not a statement about the american public's perception of illegal immigrants so far as i can see. the situation on the border with the cartels and drug/human smuggling has got a good number of people pretty spooked from what i've heard.

edit - but i think it's fair to say things are going to shift in favor of immigrants and even a lot of current illegals, given the current trends. because many legal immigrants have illegal immigrant friend/relatives

and so as long as we keep filling certain parts of the country with these people, those stats will continue along that trajectory.

which is probably why conservatives like ann coulter or donald think now is the time for them to speak out. because if anything they have as much leverage now on that issue as they're ever going to have. if they allow the current trends to continue unchallenged then they will certainly never get their way. if they have any shot at hoping to challenge those policies... that door/window is rapidly closing. so it would actually make perfect sense to me that it's now or never for them and thus the enthusiastic campaign effort.

They've been speaking out non-stop for eons. They don't need "a time".

'From what I've heard' was the main thing that I was referring to. That particular mindset may be popular in the south and seen in border states at varying degrees, but that hardly suggests that Trump's comments echo the thoughts of the majority of Americans. Looking at the Gallup polls, we can see that most people are on the opposite side of trump. My comment was saying look outside of your own immediate area when making statements like that. If I lived in San Francisco and said that the majority of people want to be vegan and drive electric cars, it'd be along the same lines of bad logic that you used.

That is all.

Yep. Anecdotes suffer from sampling bias.

fair enough, but when i said a large portion of the country.. i was referring to the backwater parts in general

e.g. upstate ny would for example be included. or the prairie states. or large portions of the midwest. i lived in south florida and the amount of racial tension down there is pretty noticeable in working class and middle class populations as well. because florida is another state with a lot of immigrants and a lot of crime and poverty that was more or less imported directly from south/central america and the carribean. most of my family are east coast people, and i've lived in the northeast as well. so while i accept that anecdotes are limited... i would say that at the very least you have to concede that my anecdotes aren't derived exclusively from the south. i have only lived in this state for a couple years.

and once again i accept your gallup poll but i think the wording of the question makes it somewhat limited in making statements about how americans feel about trump's statements as well. because from what i can tell it has nothing to do with illegal immigration, which is really the focus of trump's talking points.

JWB's starting to sound incoherent.

of course the progressive narrative is that they're dumb for not competing for the hispanic vote an instead exploiting xenophobic/nationalist sentiments.. because that is the agenda progressives/liberals have and so it is a useful piece of rhetoric to criticize your opponents for not complying with your ideological agenda.

but consider the idea that maybe their stance on this issue is important to them. perhaps, even politically necessary for them, pragmatically speaking. because reversing their image overnight doesn't seem plausible to them. if that is the case, then they would be correct in trying to act now, in my opinion. because it's basically now or never.

disclaimer: i am not endorsing their opinion on immigration. i regard it as important for the sake of our economy that we not revert to isolationism just to preserve the current political demographics. but politicians on both sides seek to shape the demographic boundaries of their districts in their favor... and i would say that it's strategically sound for them to do so.

Dude. Talk about a run on sentence.

I think that these two are well worded and go against Trump's comments. If most of them were criminals, why would people want them to become citizens?

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hey chula... it seems you would like my attention. maybe you should try telling me specifically what you don't understand about what i'm saying.

If chula doesn't understand it, it must be a logical line of thinking.

did trump say most illegal immigrants are criminals? i'm not being rhetorical, i'm asking.

because my understanding is he was saying a lot of criminals are coming in because the borders aren't well secured.. not most immigrants are criminals. i have to go but i'll be back later to discuss this more.

Never said I didn't understand it. But your current rambling style is just kinda funny.

Carry on JWB. Carry on.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people."

Ja, definitely painting with far too wide of a brush there.

it seems like what trump is implying to me is that the situation in mexico is out of control, in regard to the cartels and all that, and so that the mexican govt is so weak in terms of being able to crack down on the cartels or in some cases even avoid being infiltrated/coopted by criminal elements that they are applying pressure on what they consider undesirables to self-deport themselves to the united states.

i'm not saying that's true or credible, either. but i don't think it's the same as saying that most existing immigrants are rapists etc. i think that is part of the semantic spin that the media uses to discredit a candidate that is promoting something that goes against their particular agenda.