that's some fine investigative reporting you're doing there, chula. i'd love to see you corner trump with a mic and demand he answer these questions of yours. the guy would talk circles around you :laughing:

basically he's just saying "hey NASCAR fans... we're still cool... but your company is trying to **** with my money... and business is business at the end of the day. TRUMP 2016"

Journalism Baby! I'm on it. :bringit:

trigger warning: tl:dr approaching etc etc

in all seriousness, i can tell you care and there's been a bit of antagonism between us lately cause i'm just vibing off the whole trump thing where as you're seriously concerned about the upcoming elections. i will say i'm sort of delighted at the recent turn of events and the way things have gone more or less as i've predicted even though i was only being half serious at the time

people are latching onto trump's xenophobic statements as if he's the new voice of the people. and the left is falling right into the trap by trying to simultaneously discredit him as a joke while officially taking the stance of being 'offended' and 'outraged' at his insensitive comments.

that's the problem with a john stewart type of jester... he cares too much to maintain his status as the jester. if trump was the joke people were saying he is then there wouldn't be so much controversy over him making some crass statements generalizing illegal immigrants etc.

these statements have been amplified and distorted by the leftist media in an attempt to completely discredit him and devalue his brand so as to neutralize any threat of him coming out as a serious candidate against whoever they put up.. most likely hillary.

they're taking it so serious because he's got people a little bit spooked. because he's demonstrating simply and effectively that hey, facts can be on your side all day, if i can talk faster than you and make it sound more appealing to the average listener than i can win the narrative war and turn that into political leverage later to win the actual election and take power.

so he's tapping into the ignorance of the common man, and he's quick witted enough to do it in a way where no matter how much **** people sling at him, he can still walk away looking to a lot of people like a semi-reasonable and upstanding individual.

i'll be honest... my conscious does sort of weigh in and say to me that beyond being incredibly entertained by the current course of events, i say to myself "hey... if trump actually gets in this **** might be a serious disaster, or another significant step in the wrong direction" so i feel like you feel that hillary is i guess the "lesser of two evils"?

cause like i'm no expert on economics or anything but as far as i know there's a reason why we don't tariff goods from china etc... the current structure is cheaper and more lucrative for companies... which yea might be greedy and not the best set up overall but in terms of lets say stimulating economic growth... i'm really skeptical about the idea that if you make it more expensive to do business this way, that those manufacturing jobs are just going to transfer back to the united states without taking a pretty decent hit to the economy. and of course i have no idea if trump is even being serious with proposing this kind of **** or if he's using the chinese the same way obama used the word "change" in 2008.



but yea i've just been falling back on standing up for trump and putting him out there, why? because i feel like a lot of you guys think that just because you have a more logical way of going about a particular issue than the kind of rhetoric that he's spewing, that you need not take him serious. and i'm seeing something completely different. i think you should be taking him very serious if you're at all concerned about this sort of thing. you can't underestimate the power of good salesmanship in politics. and trump is a king of kings in that kind of game.

and btw this is why democracy is kinda dumb lol

for anybody who gives a ****:

HAHAHA. Trump stepped in it again. He's since deleted this tweet.

http://p1cdn06.thewrap.com/images/2015/07/Trump2.jpg

NJ gives no fucks.

Well you at least have to thank Trump for turning what was up till then, a pretty dry and boring primary, into an exciting entertaining event.

Democratic primaries are so boring because they are so nice and civil to each other.

Republicans on the other hand go right for the jugular. This has the makings to be a blood bath of epic proportions!!!

I hope my sword wielding gladiators don't disappoint.

trump is gonna dominate in the debates imo

His non-answers to Bill OReilly were very compelling. lol

We shall see, there are some interesting casts of characters in the primary who will most likely pipe up (Chris Christie, Rand Paul ect) as the establishment candidate, Jeb Bush will most likely remain reserved to convey stability.

If the August debates were to take place tomorrow these ten would be in according to June 28th poll numbers.

2016 National Republican Primary - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

That's right, Christian joe Rick Santorum is outta of there!!! Take a hike Rick!

I've let this monster grow a whole 'nother page without Bernie propaganda. I'm slipping.

HA! Daddy Warbucks wants Trump banned from the debates.

Donald Trump blocked from debate stage? One GOP donor wants - Business Insider

Things are getting nice and nasty over in the GOP camps.

vote for da bern in da primarrie

Bump 4 trump.

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/...che=3tacaoppbl

Looks like political correctness is backfiring, Trump now leads the polls.

Polls: Donald Trump in first place - Business Insider

Donald Trump's poll numbers: Legit? - Business Insider

Remember this???

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...ey-by-8-points


HAHAHHAHA!!!

The fact that you care so much about discrediting a candidate that you view as not being legitimate is contradictory.

Yes, perhaps, but for right now, no matter how you interpret it, the polls say he is number 1.

Yes, but I enjoy the political theater of it all.

But you're borderline Fox News in the way you try to demonize the opposition.

Nah I'm more of an Ari Melber type. I'm doing all this with a smile on my face.

herman cain was no donald trump

trump is way smarter than the pizza peddler herman cain

trump has luxury hotels and casinos with his name one it

and in this country, for that to happen, you have to be somebody

trump2016

also lmao @ how the same xenophobic/racist remarks that the lamestream media machine are trying to use to defile trump are popular opinions among the unwashed masses, hence why he polls higher and higher the more they try to discredit him

you would think people on the left would catch a clue and undermine this attempt in a more effective way... but it seems like most of the left are just brainwashed retards

So what does that make most of the right? (this should be good)

a few on the right are rich industrialist sharks seeking to preserve their status as demigods and the rest are basically religiously indoctrinated pawns who do their masters' bidding.

You forgot gun loving but otherwise nailed it!

i always nail it

and i didn't forget anything, you should bite your tongue for questioning me

Ffa

I can't hear that phrase without hearing Palin's dapper accent.

That reminds me. I'm Gonna have to watch Who's Nailin' Paylin? one of these days. (And yes, it's spelled "Paylin" in the movie. I just checked.)

More porn.

HAHAHAHA!

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/...eo-260x195.jpg

I think the most important thing we can take out of that is: the guy's name is Wang??? :laughing:

Also, JWB for President 2016! Not only would it be a huge upset, but can you imagine the name of the man who shot Lincoln, one of your greatest presidents, coming to live at the White House! :rofl:

Yes because I'm sure he would use his internet forum username and not his actual name.

fixed

based on chula's enthusiasm, i can only guess that this is literally what is considered porn when you pass a certain age

H-H-hold the phone there! You mean it isn't? And you're not actually called The Batlord?? My world just crumbled around me! :yikes:

Nah, I wank to Tori Black. The politics **** is just for ****s and giggles.

More ****s and giggles.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donal...912263661.html

is that your daughter's name?