U.S. Supreme Court legalizes nationwide gay marriage

Xurtio · 06-30-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

Yes, because trans women are women and trans men are men.

(Provided that when you say "trans women" you really mean trans women, i.e. designated male at birth.)

That makes sense. What about the second one?

And shouldn't there actually be a trans/cis component to sexual orientation? I'm attracted to cis females, but not trans females.

(sorry Exo, i double posted)

**Exo** · 06-30-2015, 06:45 PM

It's fine. Triple posts are the devil though. I will end your life. This can stand...but seriously stop.

Josef K · 06-30-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

That makes sense. What about the second one?

Yes to both.

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And shouldn't there actually be a trans/cis component to sexual orientation? I'm attracted to cis females, but not trans females.

(sorry Exo, i double posted)

I don't really believe you, but regardless, when we talk about sexual orientation we pretty much are just talking about what genders, if any, you're attracted to. Since "transgender" is not a gender (and nor is "transgender male" or "transgender female"), the label for your sexual orientation doesn't generally take gender identity into account.

The Batlord · 06-30-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

I don't really believe you, but regardless, when we talk about sexual orientation we pretty much are just talking about what genders, if any, you're attracted to. Since "transgender" is not a gender (and nor is "transgender male" or "transgender female"), the label for your sexual orientation doesn't generally take gender identity into account.

Tell your average dude the chick he's bonering at is a tranny and see if he doesn't consider transgender relevant to sexuality.

Xurtio · 06-30-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

I don't really believe you, but regardless, when we talk about sexual orientation we pretty much are just talking about what genders, if any, you're attracted to. Since "transgender" is not a gender (and nor is "transgender male" or "transgender female"), the label for your sexual orientation doesn't generally take gender identity into account.

Why don't you believe me? That seems like an important influence on everything you say after that, despite you saying that you don't regard it.

Like you think that if a penis came out I wouldn't lose my attraction to someone who I previously thought was a cis female? Or just that I might find a transwoman attractive before I noticed she had a penis?

Or are you just making a statement about sexuality being fluid in general?

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