bernie sanders 4 prez

FaSho · 02-02-2016, 11:57 AM

Clinton won six out of six coin tosses to take Iowa :/
Sometimes, Iowa Democrats award caucus delegates with a coin flip

**Frownland** · 02-02-2016, 12:03 PM

Paul Smeenus · 02-02-2016, 12:11 PM

By all accounts, Clinton/Sanders was a tie, and IMO a tie = a win for Bernie. This was/is Hilary's election to lose, if she had polled at least 5% ahead of Bernie she could claim a win. But now Bernie is every bit as strong IMO, esp. with New Hampshire next week.

grindy · 02-02-2016, 12:41 PM

I'm not very knowledgeable about your system, so sorry if it's a stupid question:
If Bernie becomes president, will he be actually able to implement his policies?
As far as I know, Republicans love to block Democrats every way they can (and the other way around). It also seems like Bernie's quite the outsider with his own party, so even they might be trying to sabotage him if he "gets out of hand".
I can see how him winning the election would be revolutionary, but would he be able to revolutionize actual politics?

reikimaster · 02-02-2016, 12:54 PM

He aight

RoxyRollah · 02-02-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I'm not very knowledgeable about your system, so sorry if it's a stupid question:
If Bernie becomes president, will he be actually able to implement his policies?
As far as I know, Republicans love to block Democrats every way they can (and the other way around). It also seems like Bernie's quite the outsider with his own party, so even they might be trying to sabotage him if he "gets out of hand".
I can see how him winning the election would be revolutionary, but would he be able to revolutionize actual politics?

S'because hes actually a socialist. And imo no on all counts. I don't care for him.

Black Francis · 02-02-2016, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I'm not very knowledgeable about your system, so sorry if it's a stupid question:
If Bernie becomes president, will he be actually able to implement his policies?
As far as I know, Republicans love to block Democrats every way they can (and the other way around). It also seems like Bernie's quite the outsider with his own party, so even they might be trying to sabotage him if he "gets out of hand".
I can see how him winning the election would be revolutionary, but would he be able to revolutionize actual politics?

I don't think he can completely revolutionize politics but hopefully he'll be able to implement some revolutionary ideas like that thing about free college for everyone but before that, he needs to get some hearing aid cause he's freaking deaf.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-02-2016, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

I don't think he can completely revolutionize politics but hopefully he'll be able to implement some revolutionary ideas like that thing about free college for everyone but before that, he needs to get some hearing aid cause he's freaking deaf.

Its just not at all plausible that he can implement free college for all college students. Who pays for it the tax payers that are already being gouged? Also his notion of raising the minimum wage is an absolute cluster****. Does that mean they raise minimum wage and then everyone else gets an incremental raise also because they should be making more also? A republican congress will shoot down every attempt he tries to make. He would fall on deaf ears for 4 years while people still cry about the same issues, mark my words.

Chula Vista · 02-02-2016, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Its just not at all plausible that he can implement free college for all college students. Who pays for it the tax payers that are already being gouged? Also his notion of raising the minimum wage is an absolute cluster****. Does that mean they raise minimum wage and then everyone else gets an incremental raise also because they should be making more also? A republican congress will shoot down every attempt he tries to make. He would fall on deaf ears for 4 years while people still cry about the same issues, mark my words.

Was talking to my son about this last night. He's too outside. People bitch about Clinton rubbing elbows with the rich but that's what it takes to at least have a chance at making incremental changes.

Black Francis · 02-02-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Its just not at all plausible that he can implement free college for all college students. Who pays for it the tax payers that are already being gouged? Also his notion of raising the minimum wage is an absolute cluster****. Does that mean they raise minimum wage and then everyone else gets an incremental raise also because they should be making more also? A republican congress will shoot down every attempt he tries to make. He would fall on deaf ears for 4 years while people still cry about the same issues, mark my words.

Regarding the college thing, why not? like he pointed out other countries have done it.

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	I'm not very knowledgeable about your system, so sorry if it's a stupid question: If Bernie becomes president, will he be actually able to implement his policies? As far as I know, Republicans love to block Democrats every way they can (and the other way around). It also seems like Bernie's quite the outsider with his own party, so even they might be trying to sabotage him if he "gets out of hand". I can see how him winning the election would be revolutionary, but would he be able to revolutionize actual politics? __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

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