Is humanity hard-wired for war and conflict?

grindy · 08-05-2015, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I've actually asked for this not to be discussed here DWV if you read back a little. It's off-topic and I have no idea what it has to do with the question I asked. Thanks.

It has something to do with the question.
People are debating, whether such conflicts are gender-based or a general human thing, which in turn leads us to thoughts about whether all that is caused by societal conditioning or some is some kind of hard-wired thing. It might not be about wars and such, but come on.

The Batlord · 08-05-2015, 11:33 PM

nb4 Trollheart's ocd rant

Trollheart · 08-06-2015, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

It has something to do with the question.
People are debating, whether such conflicts are gender-based or a general human thing, which in turn leads us to thoughts about whether all that is caused by societal conditioning or some is some kind of hard-wired thing. It might not be about wars and such, but come on.

Yeah, I looked back at where it began and it was tore who brought it into the discussion. I actually have no problem with it being discussed; it just seems like it's at the moment taking over the thread and skewing the direction it's going in, so it seems like it's pulling things off topic. Anyway, as I already said, feminism has its own thread so why not discuss it there?

I really don't care, as long as the point, the original point I made, which has nothing to do with gender conflict (think the Romans gave two ****s about women and equality?), is not lost or talked over.

Carry on.

Chula Vista · 08-06-2015, 08:33 AM

Interesting Q&A article on war.

'What Every Person Should Know About War' - NYTimes.com

So in the last 3,400 years the world has been at peace less than 8% of the time.

RL Clown · 08-30-2015, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Interesting Q&A article on war.

'What Every Person Should Know About War' - NYTimes.com

So in the last 3,400 years the world has been at peace less than 8% of the time.

That is extremely interesting. One should definitely keep that in mind... To answer the original question: Is humanity hard-wired for war and conflict? ===> the answer is no... Look at it this way - humanity is hard-wired for competition BUT humanity is not hard-wired for war and conflict. Human beings are hard-wired for capitalism; this explains why no country or government has successfully applied communism. And even if communism were 100% successful, life would be extremely boring. In other words, you would be stuck with the same cellphone. The reason cellphones keep on improving is because human beings are greedy enough to want more profit. Human beings always want things to be better; this explains why technology is always improving. I actually don't see anything wrong with this because this actually creates more jobs for people. I'm not a big expert on economics but I think that this will lead to inflation. Inflation is not always a bad thing because the standards of living are getting better (inflation causes these standards to improve). I think that the main reason to why war exists is because human beings misunderstand each other (they think that another party is attacking them. Therefore they feel the need to react in self-defense). You want an example? I'll give you one... A musician thinks that another musician is dissing him because of a comment mentioned on television. The musician reacts by producing a diss song. Actually, the person who mentioned the comment wasn't really dissing the musician, but the musician misunderstood the message. The musician will eventually learn that he has misunderstood the message, but by then, it's too late. By then, 4 diss songs would have already been produced.

Mr. Charlie · 08-30-2015, 06:29 PM

Stuck with the same cellphone?

You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

Trollheart · 08-31-2015, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie

Stuck with the same cellphone?

You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

"Boy let me tell you now: we're in Hell!"

RL Clown · 08-31-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie

Stuck with the same cellphone?

You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

It's true. In communist countries, you can't do much... You love me all the same? [James Bond accent]I appreciate the offer, but I think that I already have a girlfriend.[/James Bond accent]

JonMJ33 · 08-31-2015, 10:56 PM

While man might have a lot of violence within their fundamental being, I truly believe that a lot of our wars are nothing more than banker's wars. Check out the documentary on Youtube called "All Wars Are Banker's Wars."

Trollheart · 09-01-2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JonMJ33

"All Wars Are Banker's Wars."

Change the "b" to a "w" and you have hit the nail....

08-06-2015, 08:33 AM	#64 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Interesting Q&A article on war. 'What Every Person Should Know About War' - NYTimes.com So in the last 3,400 years the world has been at peace less than 8% of the time. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	Stuck with the same cellphone? You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

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JonMJ33 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 15	While man might have a lot of violence within their fundamental being, I truly believe that a lot of our wars are nothing more than banker's wars. Check out the documentary on Youtube called "All Wars Are Banker's Wars."