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Chula Vista 11-14-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1651922)
yea, apparently so

Rich person. No clue.

John Wilkes Booth 11-14-2015 10:44 PM

you're repeating yourself, chula

did you take your pill today?

Chula Vista 11-14-2015 10:54 PM

What is your point? Assuming you are a part of the same society class as me...

Norg 11-14-2015 11:37 PM

I think I heard a report that 2 weeks ago French Fighters Jets bombed some isis targets in war torn Syria so yeah THIS is War and I don't think ISIS cares about it being civilian targets cus im pretty sure at time America Does not care if they bomb some civilian Targets " See the war in Libya and Syria" most recent

still tho im not quite sure were ISIS just popped out of no where and I wonder if at any givin time the west funded Isis in the start but backed off

but I know why the west is meddling in that region its all geo political

but its kinda sad that these two giant Superpowers Russia and Allied Nations are just ****in up the middle east and the arabs are so dumb there are fighting among themselves shouldn't the UNite and kick Russia and America out of there land o well this has been going on since the biblical days

William_the_Bloody 11-15-2015 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1651957)
I think I heard a report that 2 weeks ago French Fighters Jets bombed some isis targets in war torn Syria so yeah THIS is War and I don't think ISIS cares about it being civilian targets cus im pretty sure at time America Does not care if they bomb some civilian Targets " See the war in Libya and Syria" most recent

still tho im not quite sure were ISIS just popped out of no where and I wonder if at any givin time the west funded Isis in the start but backed off

but I know why the west is meddling in that region its all geo political

but its kinda sad that these two giant Superpowers Russia and Allied Nations are just ****in up the middle east and the arabs are so dumb there are fighting among themselves shouldn't the UNite and kick Russia and America out of there land o well this has been going on since the biblical days

The problem isn't that there is western imperialism in the region, the problem is that historically there hasn't been enough, it's the remnants of the governing institutions of the Ottoman Empire that run the place, not western institutions that have an established rule of law and habeas corpus.

If there was western imperialism in the region than the Iraqi oil fields wouldn't be being controlled by the interests of Iran & China, its the one western imperialist thing we should be doing. Did all those American soldiers get killed and maimed for nothing?

All that being said, I don't support intervention. We should be propping up strong men in the region like the secular Egyptian military, who can stabilize their country, and then....and only maybe....they might develop into western nations in about a century from now.

PS, don't be surprised if all the terrorists are home grown French citizens. Mass immigration under the policy of multiculturalism has resulted in creating segregated arab communities in France that have no connection to French culture or values.

A racially pluralistic society is a good thing, but if your going to let a quarter of a million people into your country each year you have to ASSIMULATE! ASSIMULATE! ASSIMULATE!

PS; Angela Merkel's career is finished. Sorry another rant!

Isbjørn 11-15-2015 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1651836)
The idea that we can replace strong men with legislative assemblies in countries that have absolutely no tradition of the rule of law or democracy is utopian. Libya is worse off now than it is under Gaddafi.

At the time of the Western intervention in Libya, the African Union was desperately trying to find a peaceful solution, Gaddafi had accepted to hold democratic elections under international observation, and the General Secretary of the UN demanded an immediate ceasefire. The idea that the intervention was about saving civilian lives and introducing democracy, is dubious.

John Wilkes Booth 11-15-2015 03:12 AM

what motives would you suggest?

Isbjørn 11-15-2015 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1651995)
what motives would you suggest?

Economic ones, perhaps.

Nameless 11-15-2015 03:32 AM

What economic benefit has the US reaped from intervention in Libya? Looks more like a huge sum of money that was basically thrown away to me.

Isbjørn 11-15-2015 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nameless (Post 1651997)
What economic benefit has the US reaped from intervention in Libya? Looks more like a huge sum of money that was basically thrown away to me.

I don't know. It was just a suggestion.


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