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Old 11-15-2015, 09:41 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Attention.

As you can see, I deleted a lot of completely unnecessary and quite frankly offensive posts that were made at the beginning of this thread and any post referring to them.

This thread is now considered and is being monitored as a serious discussion thread.

Does that mean you can't voice your opinion even if it may not be a well taken one? No. You can voice that all you want. As you can see, I didn't delete the actual discussions towards the end of this thread because that is what this sub is for.

You know what this sub ISN'T for? F*cking classless and heartless jokes about 129 people who just lost their f*cking lives at a concert and various other places around France. Yes, people die every day. I understand that. If you don't want to join the rest of the world in mourning this tragedy, or any other tragedy for that matter, don't, you don't have to...

but if I see jokes in this thread related to the attacks, discipline will happen. Whether you agree with it or not, I'm now drawing a line. Don't cross it. I'm aware of the attacks in Lebanon as well. Adel Termos is a goddamn hero. So I don't want to hear any BS about "You're just jumping on the Paris attack mourning" bandwagon. Jokes about innocent people losing their lives whether they happened today or ten years ago suck, and if they are in a certain context, will be f*cking deleted. It happened two days ago assh*les. Ridiculous.

PM your sh*tty attitudes about human f*cking beings with each other. Don't do it on here.

Understood?

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Old 11-15-2015, 10:04 AM   #72 (permalink)
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At the time of the Western intervention in Libya, the African Union was desperately trying to find a peaceful solution, Gaddafi had accepted to hold democratic elections under international observation, and the General Secretary of the UN demanded an immediate ceasefire. The idea that the intervention was about saving civilian lives and introducing democracy, is dubious.
Exactly, Gaddafi was on tenuous ground at this point. The west saw an opportunity to remove an anti western dictator and did, but they did it for ideology not imperialism.

If you want to say it was an imperialistic oil grab than you would have to prove that the removal of Gaddafi significantly benefited Europe, but it has not, oil production and exports to Europe have been cut in half do to the instability of the country now.

Likewise, the United States doesn't control the oil reserves in Iraq right now, its geopolitical rivals (China & Iran) have moved in and taken things over with the Iraqi government.

The problem with the west isn't that there is too much imperialism, it is that there is not enough. NATO removes the strong men under the belief they can establish a democratic system, but it doesn't have the guts to occupy that nation for long periods of time to ensure its stability, largely because they know their general public can't stomach body bags coming home in the name of nation building.

The West is in decline, it no longer has a surplus population to put troops on the ground like it did during the heyday of the British Empire, which is why we have to dump this "Wilsonian" virus of trying to make the world safe for democracy, by establishing them everywhere, because its turned the Middle East into a quagmire.

There is nothing stronger in the world than a current of political ideology, not even the most powerful multinational corporations on the planet can contend with them, they will simply get swept away.
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:05 AM   #73 (permalink)
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ATTENTION: NOW THAT ALL THE JOKING HAS LONG SINCE STOPPED, LET US PAUSE To BE OFFENDED
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:06 AM   #74 (permalink)
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ATTENTION: NOW THAT ALL THE JOKING HAS LONG SINCE STOPPED, LET US PAUSE To BE OFFENDED
You really think there wouldn't have been more jokes?

EDIT: Also, don't really care. This is going to be an ongoing thread and I'm drawing a line from here on out. I'm addressing the issue. Deal with it.
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:31 AM   #75 (permalink)
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You need to find another forum.
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you ever think about tact? if you wanted to kill those jokes the best thing you could've done is deleted them and said not a word about it. maybe privately warned the members involved via pm.

but yea... if you really thought more jokes were coming then you don't understand comedy very well, my friend. batlord and ki tried some jokes and they flopped bad. so they promptly stopped making jokes. i doubt they were going to come back and try the same failed bit again.

and drawing the line... while i respect your authority to do so... i am going to voice my opinion that it's bull****. people joke about all sorts of **** where the actual event that is at the root of the joke wasn't pleasant in reality. they joke about ww2, the holocaust, slavery, jesus hanging on a cross, 9-11. you can say "those types of jokes are never funny" but the problem is you can't control that. somebody might come along and make a funny one. then some will say oh you can joke about bad **** but there's the vague waiting period... "too soon, man, it's too fresh." please. you didn't experience anything. unless you knew someone who died, you really have no legit leg to stand on acting so sanctimonious. you're just another person that watched it on the news. you haven't suffered a trauma, my friend. you aren't being triggered. this is all a bunch of bull**** to me. just people posturing with their serious face on as if it makes the slightest bit of difference with regard to the amount of suffering that the tragedy has caused and will continue to cause.

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yea you might be right. i guess it's true what they say about broken clocks.
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:37 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Here's the point you seem to forget.

It's not. F*cking. Allowed. On. This. Website.

If you don't like it, f*ck off.
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:47 AM   #78 (permalink)
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i'm not saying break the rules, i'm questioning the logic behind them

btw. in that. stunted. sentence. "it" is an ever growing category isn't it
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yea you might be right. i guess it's true what they say about broken clocks.
Move on JWB. Your jokes here are all worn out. The edginess was fun for a while but the underlying **** blew it all out.

Especially for you.

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would you pay me to stop posting chula?
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