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Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 05:50 PM

Antonin Scalia 3/11/1936 – 2/13/2016
 
Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court justice, dies at 79 - CNNPolitics.com


I don't make light of anyone's death. Having said that, this was my without-a-doubt least favorite sitting justice. I am an unapologetic liberal, esp. as pertains to Freedom From Religion, as such Scalia was my enemy. I didn't want him to die, but I wanted him to retire from the Supreme Court. I hope I'm saying this correctly.

This means that quite unexpectedly Obama will be selecting his replacement, and I'm just glad it won't be Trump. *shudder*

OccultHawk 02-13-2016 05:55 PM

I'll say it then.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope that right wing piece of **** is sitting next to Reagan in hell.

And yes thank God he kicked during a Democratic presidency.

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 06:02 PM

I see in the RIP thread that Frownie had already posted on this, IMO this is an incredibly important, far-reaching news story, love him or hate him (I clearly hatred him) this is one of the most important people on this planet, as such I felt it merited it's own thread.

TheLhix 02-13-2016 06:04 PM

Who will replace this creature? I hate them, but the dead is dead. What will happen after this?

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLhix (Post 1679774)
Who will replace this creature? I hate them, but the dead is dead. What will happen after this?

Obama will appoint someone, then Congress will ratify the selection or deny it, which puts it back in Obama's court (as it were)

TheLhix 02-13-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1679776)
Obama will appoint someone, then Congress will ratify the selection or deny it, which puts it back in Obama's court (as it were)

I was talking more about the contingency or consequences of that

OccultHawk 02-13-2016 06:24 PM

Well what happens is America moves further away from Jim Crow.

TheLhix 02-13-2016 06:32 PM

^ That is a plus

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLhix (Post 1679777)
I was talking more about the contingency or consequences of that


Well, Sotomayor and Kagan were Obama appointments, that's the kind of Justice I would expect to replace Scalia. That would bring the Supreme Court further in that direction.

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 06:40 PM

In other words, what OccultHawk said.

OccultHawk 02-13-2016 06:52 PM

Obama could and might nominate himself. That would be so bad ass!

OccultHawk 02-13-2016 07:15 PM

Christ the republitards are already pulling the same old unconstitutional bull****

Republicans already opposing any Obama Supreme Court nomination

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 07:24 PM

Political grandstanding. I would've expected this.

Chula Vista 02-13-2016 07:47 PM

McConnell, just go to sleep.

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 07:58 PM

???

OccultHawk 02-13-2016 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1679802)
McConnell, just go to sleep.

Forever...you turtle looking freak.

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 08:09 PM

Oic

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 09:37 PM


Paul Smeenus 02-14-2016 04:46 AM

I hope that was seen as the utter horsesh*t for which I clearly intended, the poster obviously wants to be Alex Jones. Yawn. Unless it's a deliberate parody, in which case it was brilliant.

I agree with Cenk Uygur on this:




Paul Smeenus 02-14-2016 05:49 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...425_story.html

Paul Smeenus 02-15-2016 07:19 PM

This is almost certainly the most important Supreme Court nomination of our lifetime, all that's at stake is the balance of political power in America. As such, I'm going to be posting to this thread a lot, just about certainly for the rest of 2016 and won't be settled until 2017, one way or another. Both Republicans and Democrats have everything to lose, or gain, in this next nomination.

Scalia was the swing vote on the Supreme Court. The current conservatives are Roberts, Thomas, Kennedy and Alito, the liberals are Bader-Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan. Earlier in this thread I said that Obama would nominate the next Justice, but I've been utterly convinced that there is less than a snowballs chance that any Obama Supreme Court nomination will be accepted by the republicans. That can only mean that we will not have a replacement for Scalia until no earlier than January of 2017, more likely not until February.

This is, of course, unprecedented in US politics. The ramifications are profound indeed, the election of 2016 will affect the balance of power in all three branched of government, obviously the Executive with the election of a new President, the Judicial with the selection of Scalia's replacement, and the process of this will profoundly affect the election of the 34 Senators and the entire House.

Now, how many of those Congressional seats will be vulnerable? That's an extremely complicated question. As of right now IDK, but that's going to be my obsession for the remainder of the year, and the Presidential race will also play a profound role on both races. Wow.

Just...wow.

Chula Vista 02-15-2016 07:33 PM

What if we were to have a repeat of Bush/Gore where it came down the Supreme Court deciding who won the presidency?

Paul Smeenus 02-15-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1680210)
What if we were to have a repeat of Bush/Gore where it came down the Supreme Court deciding who won the presidency?

That's a very good question, CV, right now I'll have to file it in the items-to-be-researched folder.

Man, this election just got real

OccultHawk 02-15-2016 08:22 PM

Paul

You're right. This is huge. Obama needs to do anything it takes to get one through. I think he should even be willing to use his power as commander-in-chief to get it done. Shut down military contracts that employ workers in red states. Close unneeded military bases in America and Europe. If they refuse to give him his Constitutional due as the democratically elected POTUS then he should play just as nasty and use any kind of political blackmail at his disposal. A strong liberal in there would mean freedom for millions for decades to come. Scalia's death is the most wonderful and fortunate thing that has happened to America since I don't know when. This opportunity must not be squandered.

Paul Smeenus 02-15-2016 08:56 PM

Obama absolutely will not try to bypass the process in that manner, which would be tantamount to an armed takeover of the US government. Nor should he. Ours is a government of laws, and both republicans and democrats need to abide that process lest the entire Constitution be rendered a farce. We must use the political process that Thomas Jefferson and John Adams envisioned, flawed as it is it is the greatest Constitution ever written. The Supreme Court will be selected after the election, and after that process I will make a decision as to whether or not to emigrate to Canada.

OccultHawk 02-15-2016 10:25 PM

The scenario I described is just as legal as what the Republicans are doing.

OccultHawk 03-06-2016 11:06 AM

Why the **** hasn't Obama put his first choice out there yet?

Paul Smeenus 03-11-2016 07:21 AM

Obama signals Supreme Court announcement could come soon

Paul Smeenus 03-15-2016 11:46 AM


OccultHawk 03-15-2016 03:01 PM

She's going to make a great VP and follow-up president for Sanders.

Paul Smeenus 03-15-2016 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1686268)
She's going to make a great VP and follow-up president for Sanders.

She's great, I agree, I'd actually be surprised to see her on a Sanders ticket.

OccultHawk 03-15-2016 04:50 PM

Why would you be surprised?

Paul Smeenus 03-15-2016 05:08 PM

IMO if Bernie gets the nomination I don't see him tapping EW as a VP, I don't know you it could be but I don't think it'll be EW, IMO if EW would run for VP she wouldn't have declined the nomination in '15.

I haven't looked at other potential VP candidates, Bernie needs a lot more delegates before that's even a concern IMO.

Paul Smeenus 03-15-2016 05:15 PM

I *could*, however, see EW taking a high position in a Sanders cabinet.

Paul Smeenus 03-16-2016 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1680211)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1680210)
What if we were to have a repeat of Bush/Gore where it came down the Supreme Court deciding who won the presidency?

That's a very good question, CV, right now I'll have to file it in the items-to-be-researched folder.

Man, this election just got real


The answer is that, should the Supreme Court split 4-4 on a decision, the ruling of the lower court would be upheld. I think this is a pretty stark illustration of the gravity of the Republican inaction.

Paul Smeenus 03-16-2016 09:47 AM


President Obama nominates Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court

Paul Smeenus 03-16-2016 10:09 AM


The Batlord 03-16-2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1686354)

So is she a mage or a cleric?

Paul Smeenus 03-16-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1686360)
So is she a mage or a cleric?

https://49.media.tumblr.com/9a7af495...oy56o1_500.gif


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland

The Batlord 03-16-2016 11:17 AM

I'm assuming she's not an elf. "Merrick" sounds too human, and "Garland" would be just a little too on the nose.


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