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Old 06-24-2016, 04:24 AM   #211 (permalink)
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Many people think it's not a matter of "making some allowances". They think it's "making all allowances", i.e., giving up sovereignty.
America is a collection of states that used to have a lot more sovereignty than they do now. Even when the Constitution was ratified they had more sovereignty, until the Civil War put an end to a large extent to the debate between states right vs. the federal government.

Should the states start seceding now?
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:27 AM   #212 (permalink)
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:35 AM   #213 (permalink)
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Many people think it's not a matter of "making some allowances". They think it's "making all allowances", i.e., giving up sovereignty.
So..if you are a part of the EU you are giving up all sovereignty? I guess I live in a country that has no sovereignty...oh well...I will raise a glass to this this evening.

As I see it, as long as the UK trades with the EU, it still has to make allowances. No one wants a trade deal that is completely one sided, sovereignty or not. You still have to make compromises, unless you plan to just become isolated. Hence, my space plan for the UK should still be an option
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From this post forward no one is allowed to refer to economic "long term gains" without explaining what those will be. Cause all I'm hearing is vague, wishy-washy bull****, and I'm being generous.
That takes time .
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From this post forward no one is allowed to refer to economic "long term gains" without explaining what those will be. Cause all I'm hearing is vague, wishy-washy bull****, and I'm being generous.
I agree with this so hard. Explain yourselves! I'm glad they left though just because I want to see them suffer.
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I agree with this so hard. Explain yourselves! I'm glad they left though just because I want to see them suffer.
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Old 06-24-2016, 05:38 AM   #217 (permalink)
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Should the states start seceding now?
If the people vote for it, yes. Was that a trick question?
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Old 06-24-2016, 05:59 AM   #218 (permalink)
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If the people vote for it, yes. Was that a trick question?
Should the cities start seceding from the states? Should neighborhoods start seceding from cities? It seems like at some point people need to recognize the need to band together to function in the world.
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:14 AM   #219 (permalink)
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In the case of the USA, that ship has sailed. No state may secede without it coming to war. As for the UK, that ship has not sailed. They may still leave the EU if they wish. And they do.

People do band together in this world. The UK is a good example. A bunch of people made a nation.
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:21 AM   #220 (permalink)
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Hang together or hang separately...But hanging together is always better .....why do you want them to suffer dj thats not cool.
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