Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Nope, I'm afraid that doesn't work. We are talking about a specific topic in which the legislative and demographic changes are notably different. Besides I have relatives in the U.S. live two hours out of Seattle, travel their regularly as well as being your next door neighbor and biggest trading partner. More than qualified.

As I've stated though before, I'm afraid I must disengage from this topic but I'm happy to discuss American politics for you, though I doubt there would be much controversy as I have already pledged my allegiance to Hillary.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Apologies for not proofreading, but you win an argument by bringing forth credible evidence and stats, not by knit picking at someone's vocabulary, and hurling insults.

Anyways I don't want to argue with Americans on this topic, you're too far removed from it to fully comprehend the complexity of the issue. Come back to me in 10 20 years.

I would be happy to discuss American politics with you though,Trump, Clinton, Sanders, and possibly Warren?

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I remember when I first joined Music Banter. It was my first real contact with British peoples. When I joined I was still under the impression that the women wore petticoats and bonnets, the men went fox hunting on horse back and they played lawn skittles, and croquet. I must confess that most of the information I got was off of Genesis albums. Needless to I was brought up to speed. Are there British who fear if they exit the EU another leader like an Oliver Cromwell could rise to power?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by DeadChannel

As much as I'm usually on board with ****ting on America, this seems like an arbitrary, lazy excuse to not interact with whatever arguments he might have.

Originally Posted by Frownland

I find it delightful how seriously I'm taken sometimes.

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by Frownland

I find it delightful how seriously I'm taken sometimes.

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Sorry about that, I was out looking at cars.



Interesting.

https://data.oecd.org/migration/fore...population.htm

My perception does jive with reality as a Canadian, but not as a Brit, which is why arguments should remain evidenced based as opposed to what I see on my driving tours to the United States. However enough to raise my eyebrow, but not enough to change my opinion, consider the following.

1) Hispanics which make up the majority of foreign born in the United States are westernized people of Catholic background.

I had already mentioned that I don't view the Hispanic population of the United States to enter into the multicultural debate because they are already westernized people of predominantly Catholic heritage.

The United Kingdom & western Europe have been taking in large amounts of immigrants from non westernized countries and the problems are beginning to show....throughout Europe with repeated sex crimes and terrorist attacks.

2)`The United Kingdom has seen a dramatic spike in the number of foreign born citizens, as mentioned under the rule of the labour party



3) Geography

United States: 9.857 million km²
United Kingdom: 243,610 km²

That is a massive difference in terms of relative space and available resources, While the United States there is available space for everyone to spread out, in the UK things are much more compacted.

and before you go pointing Canada, 80% of us are huddled along the southern border because it's so frickin cold and inhabitable in much of our country.

4) The legislative policy of multiculturalism & political correctness

As to my knowledge multiculturalism has not been legislatively implemented as official policy in the United States. Traditionally (though you've ceased enforcing it) the US has been based on the melting pot.

There is ample evidence that multiculturalism in Europe is creating segregated communities that do not assimilate, and allow for young people to be easily infiltrated by competing ideologies

Radicalised Muslims in UK more likely to be born in Britain, rich and depressed | UK Politics | News | The Independent

and that's not even going into the Human Rights Commissions which are a whole other can of worms in themselves.

No you're a right of center country, I stand by what I said, your at least a decade behind this issue in comparison to Canada & the UK.