Brexit? Yay or Nay.

Lisnaholic · 07-02-2016, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Don't kid yourself, they're contortions. My favorite was when you pointed out that the UK has a higher population density than the US but quickly said I wasn't allowed to mention the fact that Canada has a lower population density than the US, presumably because it undermined your entire point of bringing up population density in the first place.

^ Haha! I noticed that as well - that William the B is taking a classic nimby position. (In case "nimby" is a British-only acronym, it means a person who says, "Yes we need a new sewage-processing plant, but not in my back yard.")

As the debate has swung round to population density, may I be tedious and re-post two maps that together clearly show that the majority of Syrian refugees are heading to countries that already have some of the highest population densities in the world. Britain, Europe in general and Lebanon are all suffering from this topsy-turvy logic.

Spoiler for population maps:

RoxyRollah · 07-02-2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I have no issues with Clancy, I just have issues with his politics. As far as I'm concerned we are still cool and get along just fine. If that's not the case then he needs to speak up and talk to me 1 on 1.

I can disagree with someone's politics and still like them as a person.

Also why have you been ignoring me lately? Send a brother a text back or something.

Yeah watch it when you get the chance.

Definitely not the best impression of him.

Im too busy fighting N.W O.

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William_the_Bloody · 07-02-2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Don't kid yourself, they're contortions. My favorite was when you pointed out that the UK has a higher population density than the US but quickly said I wasn't allowed to mention the fact that Canada has a lower population density than the US, presumably because it undermined your entire point of bringing up population density in the first place.

There not contortions Janzoon, and I'm not undermining my point on population density in Canada. I am providing you with facts based on primary sources. Canada's population is huddled along the Canadian border because most of its too cold and inhabitable no one wants to live in the North.

The population is not distributed uniformly throughout Canada's territory. The vast majority of people who make up the population of Canada live in the southern part of the country, near the American border, leaving the northern areas largely uninhabited.

Canadian Demographics at a Glance: Provinces and regions

I am not an ideologue Janzoon, my opinion can be shifted on any topic. For instance, I'm against Trump's wall, I'm against deporting illegal migrants in your country, and I have been musing the idea that it would be better to erase the Canadian & Mexican borders and create a North American free trade zone block.

In contrast I'd be happy to have someone on this forum throw up sources that blow my argument out of the water...but I guess I'll be waiting a little while longer.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-02-2016, 09:22 AM

@WtB I don't know if you answered my NI question, sorry if you did, can't be bothered to search through pages of posts.

What makes you think that NI would vote to reunify with the Republic? The only way I could see a split from the UK would be if it became an independent Ulster, but joining Ireland, I can't see it.

**Janszoon** · 07-02-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

There not contortions Janzoon, and I'm not undermining my point on population density in Canada. I am providing you with facts based on primary sources. Canada's population is huddled along the Canadian border because most of its too cold and inhabitable no one wants to live in the North.

The population is not distributed uniformly throughout Canada's territory. The vast majority of people who make up the population of Canada live in the southern part of the country, near the American border, leaving the northern areas largely uninhabited.

Canadian Demographics at a Glance: Provinces and regions

lol. Do you think the population of the US is uniformly distributed? Do you think the population of any country is?

William_the_Bloody · 07-02-2016, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

lol. Do you think the population of the US is uniformly distributed? Do you think the population of any country is?

Of course not, but because of your climate people in the United States can settle wherever they like. In Canada where all huddled along the US border because no wants to wake up in the morning to -20/-40 weather. It sucks up there.

grindy · 07-02-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Which brings us back to my earlier point that yes, there is a point where multiculturalism can reach absurdity, but that doesn't mean that multiculturalism in itself is absurd.

Of course one could argue about what exactly constitutes multiculturalism but in my opinion the following, fundamentally flawed, premises are at the heart of that ideology:
No harmful and undesirable behaviours and attitudes are ever attributed to culture, instead stubbornly being chalked up to just economic factors and discrimination.
Assimilation into the host culture, and therefore laws and regulations which would ensure said assimilation, are not regarded as necessary.

Chula Vista · 07-02-2016, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Of course one could argue about what exactly constitutes multiculturalism but in my opinion the following, fundamentally flawed, premises are at the heart of that ideology:
No harmful and undesirable behaviours and attitudes are ever attributed to culture, instead stubbornly being chalked up to just economic factors and discrimination.
Assimilation into the host culture and therefore laws and regulations which would ensure said assimilation are not regarded as necessary.

**Janszoon** · 07-02-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Of course not, but because of your climate people in the United States can settle wherever they like. In Canada where all huddled along the US border because no wants to wake up in the morning to -20/-40 weather. It sucks up there.

Our climate, singular? You really think the US has one unified pleasant climate and people "can settle wherever"? lol

Your whole point about population density is a bit of a non sequitur anyway. The people in the dense urban areas are the ones more likely to support immigration in the US and UK, and probably in Canada as well.

RoxyRollah · 07-02-2016, 10:13 AM

The wall meant nothing obviously. Like we need anyones help...Im on my way to Texas to do it myself....In fact I've chatered a crop duster.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	@WtB I don't know if you answered my NI question, sorry if you did, can't be bothered to search through pages of posts. What makes you think that NI would vote to reunify with the Republic? The only way I could see a split from the UK would be if it became an independent Ulster, but joining Ireland, I can't see it.