artsycraftsy

I say yay. We spend £350 million a week on being in the EU and I don't feel as though we get value for money.

Lilja

But where will the Brits retire to? Are you really wanting to get rid of that Tenerife option? Guess it will be exotic Blackpool in the future for you all

Goofle

Where they wanted to retire to in the first place.

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Lilja

Not if that place is in the EU though and Brexit happens. Possible but harder to acheive.

William_the_Bloody

I love the guys musical sidewalk, (minus the Nickleback lol) My country is responsible for exporting some musical abominations.

Salmond and Sturgeon are fanatics, they will never give up on the dream of Scottish independence, and will take the fight to their grave.

Unfortunately I can almost guarantee that you will have another referendum, it might be 5, 10 or even 20 years down the road, but this battle won't be one until the other parties re gain traction in Scottland.

Lisnaholic

^ Because of what you say here, I feel like monkey-tennis - that it's difficult to decide.

Luckily, the UK made a good choice in not giving up the Pound in favor of the Euro, and in not joining the Schlengen Area. In that sense we have avoided the worst consequences of EU membership, and even if the vote is to remain in, I hope those battles will not have to be re-fought. To me, control of your own currency and control of your own immigration policy are two fundamentals that a country shouldn't give up.

^ These are both worrying aspects of Brexit, and there seem to be an awful lot of financial institutions predicting an economic slump if we leave the EU. Perhaps some is partisan fear-mongering, but it is such a widespread opinión that it is difficult to dismiss.


^ Yes, I've read a lot of horror stories (at least, economists' horror stories;"OMG look at that monster deficit!!") about off-the-scale spending because of our EU membership.

^ Sorry, Lilja, but I'm with Goofle. Many people would probably be happier in Blackpool. I occassionally dip into a forum for retired ex-pats, and it is a sorry litany of complaints about how people feel stranded in some residential desert; the promised shopping centre was never built, the locals don't speak English, the golf course is too dusty to play on, and the value of their retirement villa has plummeted. As one journalist wrote, there is a whole group of expat Brits who retired abroad, but left their brains at Gatwick to do so.

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Lisnaholic

Even in democratic countries, it's not often that you get to vote on a single question issue that you know will have an enormous effect on your country for generations to come. In the case of Britain's EU referendum, we have the added drama of it being a really neck-and-neck race. Just a day to go, and nobody can say which way the vote will go.
In Britain the papers and the campaigners are pulling out celebrities in hopes of picking up just another handful of voters:-

I started out as a Brexit man, but find that John Oliver has some very convincing arguments for Remaining:-



So fifty million people are biting their nails or trying to make a historic decision. Excitement mounts but not on MB, which abandoned the topic a month ago. What a pity that this thread doesn't even have a poll on it! I wonder if a passing mod would be able to stick one on as I for one would be very interested to know what MBers think about my country's make-your-mind-up-time crisis.

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Cuthbert

I know how I'm voting but I'll be glad when this is all over. Whatever the decision I hope it turns out to be the best one for the country and people actually accept it and move on.

RoxyRollah

Well you stayinv or leavin Martin?^

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The Batlord

We're Americans. **** Europe and Britain and pass me the fried chicken.

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