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Lisnaholic 05-26-2019 07:33 PM

Immigration is a concern to many people in the UK, but it's not necessarily linked to anti-Muslim sentiment. To me, it's not so much about cultures and Muslims, it's about sheer numbers and infrastructure. Here are some world population stats:-

Average world pop density: 59 people per sq. km
UK pop density: 275 per sq. km
USA for comparison purposes: 36 per sq. km

Our pop density is 4.5 times the world average, 7.5 times that of the USA. Faced with those figures, it makes sense to put strict limits on immigration imo. After all, the UK isn't agriculturally self-sufficient, it has a housing shortage and overburdened systems of education and health. It's a small island with more than enough people on it already. That's partly why many people worry about politicians in Brussels dictating an immigration policy to us that is more open than we'd like. Brexiteers, of course, exploit that fear in a xenophobic way which cranks up their popularity, but only because Remainers are turning a blind eye to a situation that is not just statistical, but perceived on the ground every day: why is everywhere I go so crowded?

Oriphiel 05-26-2019 07:48 PM

Dear Hawk,

Cultures don't exist in a vacuum.

Even those tiny culturally stagnant isolated inbred micronations that like to shoot arrows at moronic missionaries didn't just pop into existence one day

90% of everything cool in a given culture was caused or at least greatly influenced by its interactions with other cultures

It can't stop, and it won't stop, regardless of how many arbitrary borders scared rich people constantly throw up in an effort to divert attention from the fact that they do no actual work yet have control over virtually all of the revenue

Sincerely,
Deal with it

Oriphiel 05-26-2019 07:52 PM

Oh, and Fluff

About the milkshakes

You're right

They should be throwing bricks

OccultHawk 05-26-2019 08:40 PM

I said I’m for 100% open borders to the United States which is my own country.

Sorry that I think other countries should be able to make up their own minds

And since you’re such an expert ori how many countries have you actually traveled to and lived in?

Oriphiel 05-26-2019 08:56 PM

Remember when China and Japan both underwent periods of cultural isolation? Worked out real fuckin' great for them, huh? They totally didn't ignore the fact that most of their cool **** was handed down to them from India, and then end up falling hilariously behind the rest of the world.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2058347)
And since you’re such an expert ori how many countries have you actually traveled to and lived in?

Not as many as I've anecdoted anecdotes.

**** nations. **** nationalism in general. Connecting everyone regardless of arbitrary borders is the fastest way for everyone to see how everyone else is living, and to decide for themselves how they want to live.

You don't like Islamic extremists? Guess what sort of environment consistently gives birth to the most extremists? I'll give you a hint, it has to do with endless border wars instigated by ****ty politicans that thrive on nationalist policies resulting in pockets of disgruntled refugees exploited by charismatic figures that feed off of the cultural stagnation they've found themselves in.

OccultHawk 05-26-2019 09:07 PM

Quote:

Not as many as I've anecdoted anecdotes
None?

Oriphiel 05-26-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2058356)
None?

Yes, Hawk. I've been to no countries. You got me.

OccultHawk 05-26-2019 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 2058359)
Yes, Hawk. I've been to no countries. You got me.

Put your money where your mouth is. You love the world go see it son.

The Batlord 05-26-2019 09:23 PM

I mean plenty of people have seen the world and still have no business talking about it so why are you dickwaving? You having explored the world gives you experience but doesn't make your opinions desirable. You honestly just sound like you're trying to sound like a guy running his victory lap while everyone sucks his cock.

Oriphiel 05-26-2019 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2058361)
Put your money where your mouth is. You love the world go see it son.

Who said I love the world? I love the craziness of the world, and the endless creative ammunition it creates. There's sort of a difference.

Btw

Whippersnapper: "Zep sucks."

Old Papa Chules: "OH YEAH? AND HOW MANY STADIUMS HAVE YOU SOLD OUT RECENTLY?"

Whippersnapper: "None. And they still suck."


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