Chula Vista

You have me all wrong. I don't hate Christianity at all. Not one bit.

I hate what people have done in its name throughout mankind's history.

I hate those that in our modern times will still hold up a bible as an excuse for their intolerance and damnation of those "different" from them.

I hate those who want to push the bible into my every day life. Want to set widespread rules for everyone based on it. I hate the "my way (the bible) or the highway" attitudes.

I hate those that kill based on their interpretation of what the bible text reads. The Army of God for example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_o...United_States)

P.S. The same goes for The Koran and extreme Islamic terrorism.

"Ever since the Crusades, when Christians from western Europe were fighting holy wars against Muslims in the near east, western people have often perceived Islam as a violent and intolerant faith - even though when this prejudice took root Islam had a better record of tolerance than Christianity. - Karen Armstrong"

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

I have read the bible, studied it and its history when I was still a Christian since I was raised that way. I agree with Batlord on all of this. You don't get some kind of special authority because you read Harry Potter.

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The Batlord

The devil can't kill six million Jews unless God does nothing. So God is at the very least an accessory to six million murders. And you're okay with that. **** your beliefs.

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When I was in the hospital, the brain surgeon was explaining what he needed to do and what the risks were, that it was not impossible that I wouldn't survive the very serious operation. I was terrified of course but never at any time was there so much as a whisper of a thought of any sort of getting-right-with-god horseshit, even though it was entirely possible that I might die. I am 100% secure in my certainty that there's no "god".

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kibbeh

i stopped believing in god after the 2006 war. it was a lot to handle at 10 years old.

so yeah F*CK your god.

Chula Vista

Let's not forget all of the innocent people and animals he killed with the flood just because his first experiment was a failure. Talk about being a spoiled sport and taking your toys and running home because you lost the first game.

"That is the idea -- that we should all be wicked if we did not hold to the Christian religion. It seems to me that the people who have held to it have been for the most part extremely wicked. You find this curious fact, that the more intense has been the religion of any period and the more profound has been the dogmatic belief, the greater has been the cruelty and the worse has been the state of affairs. In the so-called ages of faith, when men really did believe the Christian religion in all its completeness, there was the Inquisition, with all its tortures; there were millions of unfortunate women burned as witches; and there was every kind of cruelty practiced upon all sorts of people in the name of religion.

You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. - Bertrand Russell"

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

RoxyRollah

Thats cause you had parts of your brain removed. :p

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DeadChannel

Well, Roxy, that's a checkmate. You win this one.

I have read Revalations palooca. I did my fair share of jesus camp as a kid.Assume makes an ass out of... oh hell.

Anyway, does that really change anything? There was still a hell of a lot of suffering throughout history that god would have necessarily turned a blind eye to. And, further, he's going to torture a lot of people forever just for having picked the wrong deity.

Also, my minds totally open. I've said this before: if you were to present meaningful evidence of a higher power, I'd consider that evidence and perhaps change my mind. You haven't been able to do that, so I shan't.

On the other hand, I've pretty thoroughly presented the lack of evidence for a higher power. However, you have failed to even remotely consider my arguments, and now that the vapidity of your reasoning has become clear, you've gotten angry and pulled the closed mind card.

Having an open mind isn't just about uncritically accepting everything that's thrown your way, it's the opposite. We all have a little bias, but I'd like to think that when people present better information and better arguments that I cannot refute, I change my mind. You don't even begin to exhibit this characteristic, at least on the topic of religion. By any reasonable standard, I have been far more open-minded than you.

If you want to get all angry, fine, but I haven't done anything wrong.


That's not the point. Even if Hitler was influenced by Satan, God would have necessarily consent to the holocaust by virtue of his omnipotence. Further, unless I've misunderstood something, you suggested that god might have consented because the Jews worshiped him in the wrong way. Now, I'm sorry, but yeah, that a downright **** thing to say. Good luck with that open mind.

Aux-In

Hopefully you've learned your lesson on starting religious threads like this one.

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The Batlord

In fact, he's basically saying that he would support US being put into concentration camps and turned into soap. I mean, we certainly fail to worship god by his standard, so would it not be justified for God to allow the devil to put us all in the gas chambers?

Seriously, what separates us from the Jews in Auschwitz?

She brought out Serious Batlord. Nobody wants that.

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