The Islam Thread

[OccultHawk]

Every religion is exactly the same.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

ugh

foreign policy, history, economic circumstances etc. CREATE more fundamentalists

yes a very traditionalist practice of Islam is dangerous (as it would be with any religion)

but we know that a more secular Islam is not only possible, but prevalent in some parts of the world, and in some parts of history

Originally Posted by elphenor

1) people practice Islam in a multitude of contradictory ways (a clear truth)

2) your politics and environmental circumstance will determine the type of Islam you practice (again so obviously true)

Therefore: the issue is political

... I think we're basically in agreement on the fact that foreign intervention creates more extremism. This is not an argument in favor of foreign intervention at all. I agree that is a failed policy.

But it seems like there's tendancy to over simplify that the intervention is the only reason there are extremists, whether you like it it not they're are cultural incongruities between the west and Islam that might make someone averse to modernity in their own way.

Like I mentioned we watched this thing happen domestically as well as abroad where religious groups rejected modernity and as a result became more extreme

[Frownland]

What's the final solution when it comes to Islam?

[jwb]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Maybe the New Testament has a pretty agreeable message and the Koran basically sucks the ding dong.

No, I wouldn't give Christianity that much credit. Yes in retrospect you can read some agreeable messages in the new testament compared to the old testament but all in all, if that was the core driving message we wouldn't have lived the way we did for 2000 years only to just recently realize it all just really means peace and love.

It was only after the religion splintered and started to
faulter that we started making some progress in the west.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

What's the final solution when it comes to Islam?

Call the next Saudi WWE event "I Slam".

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Frownland

What's the final solution when it comes to Islam?

The same solution that was applied to Christianity should do.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by jwb

The same solution that was applied to Christianity should do.

You mean accepting it as the status quo and pretending that it's no longer an issue? It looks like elph is ahead of you on that one.

[Neapolitan]

Odds are 10:1 some Alabamian is genetically related to elphenor on both sides of his family.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Call the next Saudi WWE event "I Slam".

Thanks for recycling the joke I told Sir Cuthbert OBE. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Thanks for recycling the joke I told Sir Cuthbert OBE. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Thanks but I never read your post.

[Frownland]

I remember we were having a lot of fun with the I slam jokes when driving your car through a crowd was the latest trend in terrorist attacks.

This here is defo some god tier **** that dwarfs all but like 12 batlord jokes though:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Odds are 10:1 some Alabamian is genetically related to elphenor on both sides of his family.