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Old 08-31-2020, 05:03 PM   #621 (permalink)
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I don't think that this is even controversial
Just on the real: if a person tells you they’re religious don’t you think less of them? Be honest.
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Old 08-31-2020, 05:06 PM   #622 (permalink)
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IDK, when somebody tells me they are a Satanist it tells me a lot about them.

Edit: LaVeyan Satanist, I mean.
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Old 08-31-2020, 05:06 PM   #623 (permalink)
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if you want to talk about a specific sect of a religion, possibly

but there are progressive Christians and Muslims, and they no less have claim to their faith than anyone else

someone's spirituality tells you **** all about them
progressive Christians and Muslims are just people who are not willing to accept the bleak reality of atheism and feel some sort of cultural ties to their religion of birth. The more progressive they are the further removed they are from their holy book.

BTW ideology means more than just politics. Believing that Jesus is the son of God who died for your sins is inherently ideological.
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Old 08-31-2020, 05:17 PM   #624 (permalink)
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Just on the real: if a person tells you they’re religious don’t you think less of them? Be honest.
Somewhat, but I'm also open to them expressing their religious views in a way that doesn't reject humanism and makes me think that their version of religion hasn't supplanted their moral beliefs but encouraged them to be passionate about them. I'm far more contemptuous of people who specifically call themselves spiritual. That never ends up not being stupid.
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Unfortunately the spiritual crowd represents a significant portion of the religious but not hardcore about it crowd.

Don't get me wrong though most atheists are twats as well.
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Old 08-31-2020, 05:23 PM   #626 (permalink)
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The progressive religious person I know just cherry picks parts of the bible to coincide with being progressive.

They also used to believe in The Secret.

If you need proof, Kanye used to be progressive until be decided to be ultra Christian.

Booom, debate ended.
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talk to some progressive religious folk

this is such a teenagerish view
as if my entire family and most people I know aren't religious.

What I'm saying is just patently true. There are Christians who argue the Bible isn't against homosexuality, for example. I like them. They're just wrong, though.
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Somewhat, but I'm also open to them expressing their religious views in a way that doesn't reject humanism and makes me think that their version of religion hasn't supplanted their moral beliefs but encouraged them to be passionate about them. I'm far more contemptuous of people who specifically call themselves spiritual. That never ends up not being stupid.
Hate that ****ing word. Like literally want to kill those people.
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They also used to believe in The Secret.
Also need to die.
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I'm spiritual. As in I like drinking. Aayooooooooooo!
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