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P A N 01-10-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793495)
It doesn't help when you're not giving us any evidence and only conjecture to change our paradigm. We're open to it, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.



the extraordinary evidence is right in front of you. it lights up the world and provides the opportunity for life. there is no tail. if there were a tail, we'd be able to see it, as the sun is in line with our orbit. it's not a streak. it's a dot. just like all the other "stars". you saying i don't have evidence doesn't mean i'm not providing it. there is no tail.

Frownland 01-10-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793496)
they're not really that different. a gaseous body travelling through space should have a tail. there's sh*t coming out of it all the time. what is so different about that compared to a comet?

Comets are not gaseous, therefore they will have different properties than a gaseous being. Different types of matter act and react differently. It's not rocket science.

Frownland 01-10-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793500)
the extraordinary evidence is right in front of you. it lights up the world and provides the opportunity for life. there is no tail. if there were a tail, we'd be able to see it, as the sun is in line with our orbit. it's not a streak. it's a dot. just like all the other "stars". you saying i don't have evidence doesn't mean i'm not providing it. there is no tail.

Do you consider this evidence? Because all this is is conjecture based off of your own assumptions. Try again. With links to credible sources this time.

DwnWthVwls 01-10-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793496)
they're not really that different. a gaseous body travelling through space should have a tail. there's sh*t coming out of it all the time. what is so different about that compared to a comet?

Gravity? or do you not believe in that either..

He's another thing I just thought of:

I don't know if it's true, but based on my limited knowledge:

The solar system is closed or isolated system? The solar system as a whole has a tail (as I showed with the video that you called a cartoon), but the things inside of it do not because they are all moving together.
Kind of like if you put a comet inside of something and sent it through space it wouldn't have a tail.

Trollheart 01-10-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793466)
fallacy of composition.

What is this supposed to prove? What does this even mean??





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what makes a tail in space only happen when something is evaporating?
Forward motion, I guess. As the ice melts it can't keep up with the comet, in just the same way, presumably, as contrails move away from an aircraft.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793471)
NASA is legit. Most classrooms just show drawings, not the real source, to teach children about the solar system and sun. Was your experience different? Did you take a field trip to the sun?



In the case of comets since those are what you brought up and are discussing, yes. I can't say for certain if there are any other things that cause tails in space though.

Yes, but he went at night so it was ok. :laughing:
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1793474)
Have you read this? We covered it in my Darkness in Fairy Tales class, it was awesome.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...7FZSBVkEEoRnfN

No; will look into it thanks. Didn't even realise she had passed away. :(
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Originally Posted by ChelseaDagger (Post 1793482)
Started off as a bet between a few MIT individuals centered around the idea that conspiracy theorists would readily buy into even the most scientifically debunked of theories, i.e.: a flat-earth. They weren't wrong.

So they won their bet? Wonder what they got. Was it cash? I bet it was cash.
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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793486)
the sun is not a rock with a solid, static surface. it's clearly gaseous. i really don't see why understanding this is such a hard thing.

I don't understand why you think that makes a difference.

P A N 01-10-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChelseaDagger (Post 1793499)
What exactly do the powers-that-be have to gain from the masses believing the earth is round, if in fact it is not? I'm not saying that true conspiracies don't exist, but there is usually some kind of motive involved which is worth the effort to perpetuate such an elaborate farce.

that's certainly up for debate. flat earther's also believe the earth is stationary, and that the sky revolves around it. that literally means we're the center of the universe. if you take away the ball earth, you take away the odds that our planet's creation was a fluke. that means intelligent design. and i'm no bible thumper by any means, so that's a hard pill for me to swallow. my thinking is that if intelligent design needs to be covered up, than we've been deceived as to what intelligent design may imply. it's all speculative of course, but i certainly speculate on the implications of a flat earth regularly. if they (whoever the perpetuators of the lie are) feel the need to cover up our origin story, then it's probably for some type of control. maybe society works better when we think we're an accident. maybe the devil is trying to overpopulate hell. i only have ideas, as it's beyond me.

P A N 01-10-2017 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793502)
Do you consider this evidence? Because all this is is conjecture based off of your own assumptions. Try again. With links to credible sources this time.

maybe if you make a decision to not need to win, you will be able to exchange terms like "assumptions" with "logical conclusions". just use your logic buddy. you can do it. *high five*

Frownland 01-10-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793506)
maybe if you make a decision to not need to win, you will be able to exchange terms like "assumptions" with "logical conclusions". just use your logic buddy. you can do it. *high five*

Nice dodge, but no you really are making a lot of assumptions. "If there was a tail, we would see it" is just one. Let me know when you have that evidence. Apologies for holding you to the same standards that I hold myself and everyone else to.

P A N 01-10-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1793503)
Gravity? or do you not believe in that either..

He's another thing I just thought of:

I don't know if it's true, but based on my limited knowledge:

The solar system is closed or isolated system? The solar system as a whole has a tail (as I showed with the video that you called a cartoon), but the things inside of it do not because they are all moving together.
Kind of like if you put a comet inside of something and sent it through space it wouldn't have a tail.

that video IS a cartoon and is not valid. it's not proof of anything. show me the tail of the solar system and i'll entertain this line of thinking.

Frownland 01-10-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N (Post 1793509)
that video IS a cartoon and is not valid. it's not proof of anything. show me the tail of the solar system and i'll entertain this line of thinking.

You gotta open your mind dude, don't hold onto the flat earth paradigm so hard.


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