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The Batlord 07-13-2016 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1720130)
^ good connection BF, I sure hope he doesn't tell you to stfu

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Black Francis 07-13-2016 11:47 PM

Kys batty.

Psy-Fi 07-15-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1720027)
If you don't see people as "men or women" how did you know they were a "pack of women" were coming after you?

(Forgive me.) I am curious about how why you phrased it that way. It seems calling them a "pack of women" is a bit of a Freudian slip. Shouldn't you described them as a "pack of people?" A bunch of people are generally describes as "group." "Pack" is an interesting choice, cause dogs travel in "packs" and a female dog is known as a "bitch." Is it your sub-conscience identifying them as "bitches." Maybe because the way they treated you? Conscientiously you might want to be "neutral" because you feel that is the acceptable way to be. However sub-conscientiously you are resentful that they are not playing by the same rules that you apply to yourself, or that you constrained yourself by.

Neapolitan strikes again with his rapier wit! :laughing:

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Xurtio 07-17-2016 10:38 AM

I have some sense of what Ki is saying. I do not think think men and women "don't exist", but I would say that man and woman only exist as labels for classification schemes that the human mind uses to understand things (in order to make predictions and adjust behavior). They obviously have some consistency to them and are useful classification schemes, but most people aren't careful about recognizing the limitations of such classification schemes.

Goofle 07-17-2016 11:18 AM

Men and women are biologically very different in general.

Xurtio 07-17-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1721082)
Men and women are biologically very different in general.

There's classically four different classifications of sex: genetic, functional, gonadal, and social. What you are calling man vs. Woman is probably based entirely on gonadal (which doesn't always match the other three and itself contains ambiguous cases like hermaphrodites. And it is true that the majority of cases do fit into cis classifications but that doesn't make them final - the fact that there are exceptions make them emergent. Additionally, social role expectations regarding genders depend on cultural context making them equally emergent and those role expectations carry a lot of weight in the label.

And this is fundamental to all biology. Morphology is what emerges as a result of genetics AND environment. You try to grow a human on the moon, it's morphology and associated functions will be compromised.


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