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Old 08-05-2016, 12:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'll start off by saying that I quite firmly think that evolution is as reasonable and true as gravitational theorem. It's just an interesting thought that I had today that's spurred a lot of thought.

Imagine that there was a paradigm shift in science brought on by some very strong evidence that couldn't really be denied. What evidence do you think could even disprove the theory in this hypothetical scenario?
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First there would have to have proof of a God creator. It would have be tested and replicated by the scientific method then confirmed by peer review with a near universal acceptance that yes science has confirmed the existance of God. Then it would have to be established by the same rigorous procedure that God did in fact make the universe as is and implanted mountains of evidence that life and the universe developed and changed over time. Like maybe they could do experiments where God creates alternate universes and then switches them back to this universe and again it would have to be replicable and peer reviewed.
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First there would have to have proof of a God creator. It would have be tested and replicated by the scientific method then confirmed by peer review with a near universal acceptance that yes science has confirmed the existance of God. Then it would have to be established by the same rigorous procedure that God did in fact make the universe as is and implanted mountains of evidence that life and the universe developed and changed over time. Like maybe they could do experiments where God creates alternate universes and then switches them back to this universe and again it would have to be replicable and peer reviewed.
That's one way, yep. I think it'd be more interesting if we conceived something outside of the two established sides though.
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I think it'd be more interesting if we conceived something outside of the two established sides though.
Did you not see the picture that I posted? That's an actual animal living in the deepest depths of the oceans. Why the **** would a GOD create THAT?
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Did you not see the picture that I posted? That's an actual animal living in the deepest depths of the oceans. Why the **** would a GOD create THAT?
Granted that your personal disgust disproves the existence of God, how would it disprove evolution? I wanted to talk about things that weren't God that also probably don't exist.

Remember, the question isn't why doesn't evolution exist or why you think creationism is false, but rather what is something that could disprove it were we to discover it or see it in the big picture through some new kind of lens. The God thing has been pretty ineffective so far imo, so any other ideas?
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That's one way, yep. I think it'd be more interesting if we conceived something outside of the two established sides though.

Well

Since evolution is definitely irrefutably true it's pretty hard to come up with a reason it could proven false within reasonable parameters.

It's like asking how could I prove that I'm ten feet tall.

By becoming ten feet tall and having myself measured?

What else can you say?

Evolution is the backbone of biology. Your question is on par with how could we prove that there's no life to study. And in fact, I think that would be an easier task.
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Well that's the idea. It's a thought experiment.
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Granted that your personal disgust disproves the existence of God, how would it disprove evolution? I wanted to talk about things that weren't God that also probably don't exist.

Remember, the question isn't why doesn't evolution exist or why you think creationism is false, but rather what is something that could disprove it were we to discover it or see it in the big picture through some new kind of lens. The God thing has been pretty ineffective so far imo, so any other ideas?
We could discover life on two separate planets. One that has only formed 50 years ago and one that is 7 billion years old and they had all the exact same biological species. And there's no way the older planet could have seeded the younger one.
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