Fidel Castro is dead
 

He also emphasized the necessity of a transitional socialist state as the historical stage between capitalism and communism. He never said that stateless, classless communism world appear overnight, that's utopian. Cuba is not a communist society, it is at best a transitional socialist state.

Fidel Castro is dead
 

Let's take it here. Sorry for cluttering the R.I.P. thread.

I'm convinced a six year old runs his twitter account.

Yeah, his name is Donald Trump.

I set you up with that one.

You sure did. Congrats, you were 10% of a well executed joke. That's more than you've accomplished all year.

Lol. Okay.

Aren't you glad I'm back?

I'm not answering that question.

It's almost like you're hiding something.

No. I just honestly don't know if I like you or think you need a serious batch of ball herpes.

It's both, for your information.

YEAH. HENCE WHY I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

F*cking half-wit.

I've been smoking a lot lately that I'm almost to the point where my short term memory will start to take a hit.

Wait who are you?

how'd he die?

By not being alive.

Skydiving accident.

"HENCE WHY" is redundant.

Touche.

Yeah, just like every other communist country. That transitional state is the oppressive dictatorship. The USSR was a transitional socialist state too.

The Cuban government hasn't released any details, but the man has been in declining health for over fifteen years. The press has speculated for a long time that Castro has suffered from diverticulitis, so that's probably the most likely death cause.

You're proving my point. I was arguing against what i perceived to be an utopian interpretation of Marx.

touche good point

It's a meaningless point because no country has ever been able to get past the transitional stage because, duh, dictators don't give up power. In all likelihood there will never be a true communist state because the transitional period is a toilet you can't get out of.

All well and good, but when the real life examples of an ideology are pretty much universal failures at reaching their intended goals then maybe you should rethink your support of that ideology.

That is not at all the point and is a total sidestep.

Because that's how it works in real life. The transitional government that is meant to turn the current state into a communist one ends up going the route of Stalin or Mao or Minh or Castro. Unless they can come up with a workable transitional state then communism will always remain a nice mental exercise and nothing more.

Violent revolutions are retarded in general, communist or otherwise. Having your country be taken over by people who are A.) good at killing ****, and B.) predisposed to being disenfranchised and reacting with extreme solutions, probably is not the best idea in the world.

Marx would've disagreed. From The State and Revolution

"Marx grasped this essence of capitalist democracy splendidly when, in analyzing the experience of the [Paris Commune], he said that the oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament!"
A major role of the state is to defend the interests of the capitalists. The state isn't anti-capitalist in itself.
What about the Paris Commune, run by the workers?

Had to look that up, and while I'm still in the middle of the Wiki article I notice that it only lasted a little over two months. Kinda hard to draw a whole lot of conclusions about the long-term viability of a government that only held power for such a short time.

I've gone over that more than once at length and don't feel like explaining why the American Revolution is not a revolution in the sense that pretty mugh any other violent revolution is a revolution.

TL;DR: Same basic power structures and politicians governed the country before and after the revolution, unlike Russia, China, Cuba, etc. The main change was that the "foreign" occupiers had been expelled.

I hate this country.

Through war crimes.

Here's more about that.

not voting because i dont know enough info to make that type of judgment