And you are a dumbass if you believe this.

It's nice, that's for sure.

Parents exist for a reason.

Can we agree that there is a difference between empowerment and being influential? Causing people to act out is not empowerment. He's not passing laws that enable them, they aren't being afforded any special benefits, they are not being given any more of a platform to speak then they previously had..

So again, with sincerity, can you explain to me what am I missing?

One of the definitions of empowerment is: The process of becoming stronger and more confident.

So if I'm a bully, and I see the POTUS getting away with being a bully, then it makes me more confident in being a bully.

DWV, this site only needs one Frownland.

So people who find and call out Trump's actions as deplorable don't exist in any kind of large numbers? So that's why he won.

Don't call me Frownland.. I know you're used to arguing with him, but you don't need to get all defensive. I wasn't using the term empowerment in that sense, I'm not aware of every definition of every word.

Now that we have an understanding on the usage I don't disagree with you, but I think it's a bit of an over reaction.

What the flying **** is your point?

I'm truly sorry man. Will never do it again.

The people who never stop bitching about Trump empower people not to be like him. The math adding up now?

Swing and a miss.

That's what I said originally with my Hilary example. For every idiot he empowers there are 2 SJWs outraged and going against them. I think it will get blown WAY out of proportion by media sensationalism, but in reality it won't change much.

I'll make contact with your head one day. I'm still in the right here though.

Correct'o'mondo.

There's no right or wrong. It's conjecture.

I'm not throwing up numbers, but my point is relevant and what remains true is that the population is more balanced than your fear mongering ass is trying to make it out to be.

Beautiful.

I get that but like sometimes you have to explain your thought process and how you came to a certain conclusion. Also if someone asks for a simple straight forward question. Why is it so hard to provide a simple answer?

Agreed. I've seen enough video footage to back it this up. Yes, it didn't change people that weren't already in that mindset but now they feel more comfortable speaking out because Trump won and he basically made all of their thoughts acceptable in their mind. Along with all the people that voted for him.

I don't think it's an over reaction in the slightest.

Maybe I don't think the spade is a spade. Maybe I actually like the guy. Is that so unfathomable?

And I'm yet to see Frownland argue a case for anything political.

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This is so true. The sole purpose of Frownland in this thread is just to go against anything that someone says and that ends up usually only being with Chula since he's an easy target.

it started as a 4chan troll lol

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One could be depressed that the CIA would be that stupid, but I choose to kek @ the internet's dominance of all things. 4Chan is the world l33t3r, Reddit for Vice Prez.

Everyone is laughing at how Trump is handling these intelligence agencies, but just wait. I think everyone is forgetting that you do not mess with the CIA. Call it a conspiracy theory all you want, but it's been more or less accepted that the CIA at the very least covered up - let alone took part in - the Kennedy assassination. Kennedy was screwed when he refused to provide additional support during the Bay of Pigs operation (the CIA's brainchild) and ousted Dulles as a result of the fiasco. The CIA was also happy to work with the mob until Kennedy took an active role in hindering them. There is also the popular belief that the CIA may have baited Nixon into breaking into the Watergate after even they realized the futility of the Vietnam war and he refused to end it.

If Trump proves to be more than just a nuisance for them, expect reprisals - even if that reprisal is a fabricated report of Trump's collusion with Russia.

I mean, it's a good movie and all but it's not a documentary.

And Goof, I had my say in the other Trump thread. Wouldn't want to be redundant.

I may have missed it, but I've legitimately never seen you argue a point of view regarding politics. Obviously we know you lean left, but I've not seen you explain why.

Disenfranchised liberal who thinks that Trump is a piece of ****.

When he was running I mentioned it a lot.

Most disenfranchised liberals seem to gravitate towards Trump, rather than back away from him. You seem to be more left that a liberal based on the posts I have read.

Not according to my echo chamber.

And some people think I actually support Trump too lol.

Thoughts on lowering tax then? As a whole, ignore current politics.

There are taxes that are obvious money grubbing re: sin taxes, but I think that the current progressive bracket system we have is fine (although the ridiculously complex tax code mucks that basic notion up). I also think that taxing stock market influencing Wall Street predictions is a great idea.

There are problems with America's taxes, but it's not so much in the rates themselves.

So you're responsible for this spate of kids running up to people, innocent people in the street and playing complicated and atonal arrangements on guitars, saxes and other instruments! You bastard! How could you unleash such a plague on the world???
Agreed. I can never remember anyone ever saying they took their example from a pres, with the possible exception of JFK. Most everyone knows politicians are corrupt, amoral *******s, and this government, you know, it goes right up to the president!!
That doesn't happen. Everyone in America WANTS to be president some day, probably, but nobody wants to be like him. Or her. Or it. (Edited for when America elects an alien president, or a dog. Hey, there's a cat who's mayor already of some town...)
Probably with a baseball bat.
You mean Trump could be Fired?? :laughing:

I'm just baffled at how anyone can still defend him after the last month. Unless your sole reason for voting for him was to see the whole thing burn.

I'm slowly getting over the shock and disgust of the election results and am getting back to looking forward to watching America self-destruct.

I live in DC, so we feel obligated to live in a constant state of shock and disgust now. The inauguration is going to be such a **** show.

Yes.

I think you're just describing the rest of the country.

I certainly hope so. Normalizing this ass hole would be the worst thing we could do.

Edit: Outside of electing him, of course. Oh well.

Same. I work in NW, live in NE. Considering staying with friends in Virginia next Thursday-Sat just to avoid the influx of pro-Trump die-hards and anti-Trump protesters.

But, I also kind of want to walk around and just people watch. Sadly, depressingly people watch.

Oh ****, you're from the VA area? One more person to badger into going to Maryland Deathfest whenever I get the money to go.

Yep, I plan on going to the inauguration to do just that. However you slice it, this will be a historic inauguration. I would feel weird living here and not witnessing it. Unfortunately, my wife - who is Filipino - feels too unsafe to go. Just shows you the world we are living in now.

Where in NE do you live, and do you like it? Don't want to derail anything, but the wife and I are considering looking for a place there. Brookland looks like its getting more stuff to do, but I haven't had a chance to check out the bar/restaurant scene there.

Umm, Siege, Autopsy, Morbid Angel, and Decrepit Birth? I'm there - for part of it at least.

duga, pm'd.

Is there a real reason that she feels unsafe to go the the inauguration or is she just paranoid? Is DC becoming kinda... I dunny... Klanny or something? Or parts parts of DC? I'm drunk so I sound stupid but I'm honestly curious. Is there a legit part of DC that's becoming or has always been racist but the rest of the country isn't aware?

DC itself is incredibly segregated, with the poor working class population being driven more and more into the crime-ridden SE area. In general, though, the city is incredibly liberal. Something like 93% of us voted for Hillary.

For the inauguration, she is just worried about the pro-Trump people coming and the fact that they might not like that we are in an interracial relationship.

Supporters of a campaign built on xenophobia sound like they'd be less friendly towards foreigners than other people.

Also, listening to the press conference right now. Pence's applause breaks sound like he expecting this to be like a rally, not a press conference, and each round of hesitant applause makes me laugh harder.