Sorry Nostradamus, but everything is assumption until X actually happens and you can observe factors in real time you likely never considered. If politics and business were that simple, everyone would come to the same conclusion when presented with all available information...and yet that never happens. For example, people "assumed" Trump would lose just because the media "assumed" there was no possible way he would win states like Pennsylvania. There were countless articles backed by historical data and poll data that deemed a Trump win impossible...and yet it happened nevertheless.

can we go back to Chula actually calling Melissa McCarthy funny??? that's low man, even for your tastes.

The intended reason is the same reason anybody opposed TPP, according to what he had to say in the debates. I just didn't think he'd go through with it because it implied he gave a **** about anything other than himself and his business. I'm still not fully convinced he won't use his position to corrupt politics in favor of larger businesses but it's a step in the right direction.

Though, I have been reading some shady **** about them trying to get rid of a few areas of government dedicated to investigating corruption.

And I heard he wants to reverse the gay marriage laws. Don't know if it's really true or not because people take the slightest inkling of anything that could imply that and run with it.

And I think the Muslim ban is both dumb and extremely cowardly.

And I think him signing that deal to build that pipeline is absolutely the horrible corrupt decision making I was expecting. It will create a few temporary jobs that will vanish quickly and is moving in the opposite direction the we need to go in order to start preventing catastrophic climate change.

And I absolutely think him putting a hiring freeze on government jobs is completely detrimental to actually creating jobs and is really him trying to push jobs towards different companies that will probably pay you less, give you less benefits, follow less safety regulations and work you harder.

But I could be wrong again, we have to wait and see. I mean there's not much else we can do except wait, see, complain and I guess start voting Democrat on a local level. Perhaps now Democrats will stop being little pussies and realize that the time of playing fair with Republicans is over if they want to get anything actually done.

I was just reading an article about this. They made it seem like it was Trump's idea but he would have probably tried to reverse them with an executive order if it wasn't for Ivanka and her husband.

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner Helped Thwart L.G.B.T. Rights Rollback

that's weird I quoted Lucem and it showed up as Chula. Whatever.

That's not what I meant, I meant as in how Obama bent over backwards trying to make the Republicans happy even though he had a Democrat majority in house. He should have just done what they hell he wanted. The same way Republicans always do. With out giving a damn.

Muslimham :D

It's actually Birming now. We removed the 'ham' as it's not halal.

Someone should ask President Daddy for his views on De Emerald Isle.

I really don't think enough people appreciate Obama, looking back. We can sit here and pretend America has become a ruined waste land of poverty as we luxuriously sit back at our computers and yell at each other over simple misunderstandings and light opinion differences, but I mean, we could have been jobless and starving if Obama really did **** up. That's the path we were heading down. He prevented that and slowly turned it back on the right path. We are still one of the richest countries in the world. Cherish that. Because Trump might ruin it.

You think he didn't? :laughing:

Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

Study: Obama Has Issued More Restrictive Executive Orders Than Past SIX Administrations » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Did you seriously just quote Infowars? I'd say that means you just lost the debate by default.