You say that now until Trump does or says something to piss off China and causes WW3.

Like, I don't know, walking out on stage, pulling down his pants and whirling his dick around like a windmill.

YOU guys don't care how he acts or portrays himself, but I assure you most other people, especially ones in important places, do. And that's how it effects you. That's also why the other presidents acted with more class. Don't think Obama wanted to just come out and tell people to **** themselves or something? That's why it's called politics. You have to politic.

Edit: I find it funny how so many people will judge one another for arbitrary bull**** but not expect it to happen to a president.

The China situation sounds like one of those

Letting him drive the news with these faked up controversies only encourages this behaviour btw.

Are you seriously implying that Trump would act any differently? Nah, his behavior will always be the same ****. He's an attention whore. If we ignore him he'll just try harder to get attention. We've seen this happen on this forum.

I get your point that Chula is addicted to recreational outrage and this bull**** distracts people from even more serious matters, but it still effects you and should worry you a bit that we have a president that makes our government look weak, vulnerable, unpredictable and dangerous to other countries.

*affects

His tweet at New Year was :usehead: and :D:D

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I think that if his tweets and stuff were met with a shrug and a "so what?" instead of with outrage/defense, I definitely think that he would reel it in a bit, yes.

And I guess Obama couldn't bench that much or something because he was being called weak for his whole presidency. I think America's shining worldwide image (lulz) can take it. It could be better but this situation and the clones of it that we've seen throughout this whole campaign and presidency are not as terrifying as I've heard them made out to be.

Not so much addicted but quite a bit vested. My wife and I will both turn 57 this year. I'm terrified that Paul Ryan now has a majority to try to get his policy of privatizing SS and Medicare through. I have two adult children who I worry about. Maintaining a good relationship with China allows me to have a job. My home value is very high and stable right now. Worst case we could sell our house, outright buy a smaller place in a less nice part of town, and still have a boatload of cash in the bank to survive on.

Unlike some of you, all of this day to day stuff matters to me very much. If any of it goes south in a very bad way it could seriously **** me over.

^ That article is a pretty good antidote to some of the exaggerated outrage going on. I'm going to try and take its advice to heart...


^ :laughing: That never ocurred to me, but it would certainly benefit us all I suspect!

I guess the key is to sort out the media sensationalism from the actual economic/social/diplomatic damage that Trump is inflicting on America. As far as I can judge, there's enough of that to cause genuine concern.

Years ago, as a teenager in England, I was oblivious to what was going on in politics, happy to think that none of it affected me, "and it's true sometimes you can see things that way." As I got older, though, the big picture became more intrusive; your friend's father who loses his job, prices go up, a relative can't afford health cover, other people are mis-spending your hard-earned your tax dollars and environmental damage escalates. That's when you start to realise that politicians are screwing ordinary people at every turn. That's when I decided that if nothing else, I should at least keep an eye on how I was being screwed.

Bottom line: I believe Trump is doing serious damage to the USA, which has a knock-on affect in other parts of the world, and he deserves to be called out on it.

What a nice attempt to establish a unique authority on the situation. It's too bad your actions have proven that notion to be false.

Also remember,