What Did President Trump Do Now?

Tristan_Geoff · 12-17-2016, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I've never cared whether or not Trump is a good or bad person I've cared that he's an idiot with really **** policy

Hillary's policy was superior how she is personally I also never cared about

I'm more scared of the harm his cabinet and the House/Senate are gonna do more than him.

Trollheart · 12-18-2016, 09:13 AM

I haven't the knowledge you guys have about this, but a suggestion: a thread like "Trump Bingo" or "Bet on Trump", where people try to predict what will happen under the new administration in 2017. So you could have, say, "Trump cuts childcare benefit 5-4", "Trump upsets European Bank 2-1". That kind of thing, to see whether or not the fears end up being justified, and also tackle them in a sort of light-hearted way.

As I say, I would open the thread but would have no idea what to put into it, so if anyone thinks it's a good idea and wants to run with it, feel free.

If not, **** you all.

Chula Vista · 12-18-2016, 10:16 AM

12/18/16

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the president-elect continues to lie big-time:

1. Trump told a rally audience last night that “the murder rate in the united states is the largest it’s been in 45 years,” when in fact it’s near a 50-year low, according to the fbi (see below).

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-1

2. He also keeps saying he won the election by a “landslide” when in fact he lost the popular vote by 2.8 million votes – over five times al gore’s margin over george w. Bush in 2000.

3. He repeatedly says the election was marred by “massive voting fraud” when in fact there’s no evidence of voting fraud at all – unless you consider russia’s hacking.

A democracy can only function on the basis of truth. If the public is repeatedly told by its president that the murder rate is soaring, it may support policies such as harsher policing and sentencing – the opposite of what we need. If repeatedly told that trump won by a landslide, the public may give him a mandate he doesn't deserve. If told of “massive voter fraud” the public may support further efforts to suppress votes through rigid id and other requirements.

A president-elect who repeats boldface lies poses a clear threat to american democracy. This is how tyranny begins. - robert reich

Chula Vista · 12-18-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

First, we don't have a complete list of the Clinton Foundation's donors. We also don't have a complete list of donors involved in the Uranium One sale as well. So taking those things into consideration (which none of your links address), do you think all that is acceptable? It screams corruption (and that Clinton Cash documentary is rather illuminating as well).

Who gives a **** who's donating when the most of the money is being used for charitable purposes?

Once Again, the Media Gets It Wrong on the Clinton Foundation

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Trump should be paying his bills, but you don't seem to have a good sense of what is equivocal here. Taking money in ANY way from questionable countries, especially when you are part of a family that has made their entire fortune through government, is a far more serious matter than a private citizen who has made bad business decisions or fudges foundation paperwork.

Says you. Go tell it to the hundreds if not thousands of individuals and/or families that have been destroyed by Trump's "bad business decisions".

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Secondly, I'm curious at what you think about Saudi Arabia and Qatar donating millions to the Foundation over the years.

I think it's brilliant since the majority of their money goes into helping women and children.

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And as for Trump, since you apparently can't answer my question about the good Trump has done in the past (as if he isn't capable of it or something), I did your homework for you. Enjoy.

1. Donald Trump Shelters Jennifer Hudson Family Free of Charge

2. Donald Trump Shows Kindness To A Little Girl With Bone Disease

3. Trump agrees to fly a 3 yr old on his jet to get medical care when airlines refuse to do so:

4. Trump saves a family farm in Georgia:

5. Trump give $25,000 check to marine who spent 214 days in a Mexican prison

6. The Trump/Pence campaign delivered $29,000 in food and supplies to Hurricane Matthew victims in three North Carolina towns.

7. Donald Trump - Over 34,000+ jobs created

8. Trump and Wollman Ice Rink

9. How Trump Fought Antisemitism and Racism in Palm Beach Two Decades Ago

10. Trump stops a guy from beating someone on the street with a baseball bat:

11. Donald Trump helped buy time for Ed McMahon when his house was being foreclosed on.

12. Trump Gives Unemployed Veteran A Job At Press Conference

13. Trump gives hero bus driver $10,000 out of nowhere

14. Trump hires first woman to ever build a skyscraper

He's quite the angel isn't he. Most of this **** he does solely for PR reasons. You realize that $25,000 to a multi-billionaire amounts to him basically handing out nickels. Plus you can be damn sure he writes all of that **** off when tax season rolls around.

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So let me ask you again: do you honestly believe this guy has never done anything good in his life, many times when there is no obvious gain for him to do so but rather because he was trying to do the right thing?

I never said he was Satan. But all in all I think he's a big douchebag who was born with a golden spoon in his mouth and has spent a career screwing people over while bragging about how awesome he is.

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In less than a week — at 5:59 a.m. on Monday, Oct. 10 — the Trump Taj Mahal, once Donald Trump’s greatest real estate hope, will shutter its doors. Nearly 3,000 people will lose their jobs, their pensions and possibly their homes.

Last week, I watched as Trump was nearly held accountable at the first presidential debate for laying the groundwork for this city-wide catastrophe. I watched Hillary Clinton take him to task for reneging on hundreds of contracts with local laborers. But the Donald just pursed his lips and shrugged, saying that was what “our country should do, too.”

**Frownland** · 12-18-2016, 10:45 AM

Lmao like Trump would be the first president to fear monger or lie. Our democracy has been thriving on lies since its inception and we haven't had tyranny yet. I mean, I agree that it's not good but chill the **** out.

**Frownland** · 12-18-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Most of this **** he does solely for PR reasons. You realize that $25,000 to a multi-billionaire amounts to him basically handing out nickels. Plus you can be damn sure he writes all of that **** off when tax season rolls around.

Spell "irony" for me please.

**Goofle** · 12-18-2016, 10:46 AM

@ Chulas fake news list: Trump won by quite a big margin. About 80% of counties voted in favour of him.

The Batlord · 12-18-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

@ Chulas fake news list: Trump won by quite a big margin. About 80% of counties voted in favour of him.

How many of those counties were made up of two cousins and a dog?

**Frownland** · 12-18-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

@ Chulas fake news list: Trump won by quite a big margin.

Source: I know it, you know it, everyone knows it.

Hillary quite undeniably won by a large margin.

Anteater · 12-18-2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I think it's brilliant since the majority of their money goes into helping women and children.

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/25/...on-foundation/

I'm not saying the Clinton Foundation hasn't done charitable work, but you are living in dreamland if you seriously believe that Saudi Arabia and Qatar would give her foundation MILLIONS of dollars for those reasons. It doesn't add up. The Clintons were broke in the late 90's and are multi-millionaires less than ten years later. You don't make hundreds of millions from just giving speeches to the financial industry.

Again, Trump has problems. I didn't vote for him and have doubts about him in pretty much every area that isn't related to fiscal policy, but critical thinking needs to go both ways. You make way too many assumptions and aren't looking at all the facts.

I guess I'll just have to hope we can get a serious Libertarian candidate one of these days running.

12-18-2016, 09:13 AM	#192 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	I haven't the knowledge you guys have about this, but a suggestion: a thread like "Trump Bingo" or "Bet on Trump", where people try to predict what will happen under the new administration in 2017. So you could have, say, "Trump cuts childcare benefit 5-4", "Trump upsets European Bank 2-1". That kind of thing, to see whether or not the fears end up being justified, and also tackle them in a sort of light-hearted way. As I say, I would open the thread but would have no idea what to put into it, so if anyone thinks it's a good idea and wants to run with it, feel free. If not, **** you all. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-18-2016, 10:45 AM	#195 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Lmao like Trump would be the first president to fear monger or lie. Our democracy has been thriving on lies since its inception and we haven't had tyranny yet. I mean, I agree that it's not good but chill the **** out. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x