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Old 01-31-2017, 07:51 PM   #2041 (permalink)
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I didn't want it to happen this way considering the people that stand to suffer but Trump is poking the sleeping dogs
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:19 PM   #2042 (permalink)
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Nea. You must be joking.
I know some people want it to be Trumps versus average muslims. Some people act like it is a permanent ban against them, the thing is only for 90 or 120 day, depending on the situation. Well I get that people hate Trump, and everything he does has to be wrong. There is no rationality behind anything that his administration does. Even if B Obama's administration done the same thing. Let Obama slide. However there is all these ulterior motive Trump and his administration has. I get that.

The terrorist group al-Qaeda has been operating in Yemen for years. It will continue to do so for a long time to come. In the long run will this 90 ban and whatever policy they want to implement do anything? I really don't know. The can easily go from one country to another. If there is a loop hole they'll find it.

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According to information supplied by IATA, the International Air Transport Association, Syria, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Yemen and Libya all forbid Israeli passport holders from entering their countries, along with 10 other nations: Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Kuwait, Lebanon, Malaysia, Oman, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
Six of the seven countries on Trump's list also ban visitors based on nationality
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Shhh Nea, you can't cite news here that doesn't align with Buzzfeed, the New York Times or Huffington Post.
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Even if B Obama's administration done the same thing. Let Obama slide.
So this is just one of those alternative facts that conservatives are going to repeat because it sounds good to them
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:13 PM   #2046 (permalink)
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Well below your normally decent standards.

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Well below your normally decent standards.

Neil Gorsuch?

Eh, alrighty then.

No opinion on Gorsuch. He's Ivy League educated and doesn't seem all that different from Scalia. I love what he said about liberals back in 2005 though.
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Honestly, Republicans can bitch about Democrats being hypocrites all they want. What goes around comes around...they are now reaping what they sowed. They are the ones who created these deep divisions. What, they thought by taking the White House and control of congress that the Dems would just let them cram these regressive and unconstitutional policies down their throats? Please. The world supports the left's progressive policies for the most part and the world has been moving towards being more liberal for the past 40-50 years. Take polls of just the millennials onward and you will see an overwhelming majority support liberal policy. You can't have one side playing by the rules and the other thinking they are above them...now we are on an equal playing field.

And for the record any ban on travel that has happened in the past has NEVER been based in religion. What aren't conservatives understanding about this? Not only is this targeting Muslims specifically, but we are prioritizing Christians for entry? THIS is what is outrageous.
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The world supports the left's progressive policies for the most part and the world has been moving towards being more liberal for the past 40-50 years. Take polls of just the millennials onward and you will see an overwhelming majority support liberal policy. You can't have one side playing by the rules and the other thinking they are above them...now we are on an equal playing field.
The rest of the world is also in complete chaos. We've made great progress but created a completely different set of problems as a result of what you are describing. It's a shame really: I'd shift from being libertarian to liberal if they weren't so boneheaded in regards to dealing with the underlying ideology of Islam (religion of peace? Yeah sure) and stopped being so obsessed with disingenuous identity politics. But they won't change or support intelligent policy in the name of inclusivity, and that is one of the biggest reasons why people like Trump have come to power.

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What you're saying is you need a safe to be a bigot pretty much
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