Imo, the ease in going viral should be one of the main drivers in maintaining journalistic integrity.

You don't need to lie to make him look like **** though. He's made it reaaaaallly easy to stick to the facts.

I think that if this were any other election, people wouldn't be shelling out fake news to attempt to take down the next president to take office. At least not to this extent. Buzzfeed at the end of the day were really just trying to get under Donald Trump's skin because we all expected it to get to him. The same could be said about Merryl Streep's speech. She said that and purposely didn't say his name because she knew that it would get to him. And guess what? It did.

Lol you haven't seen much conservative media these past eight years have you.

You purposely left out when I said "at least not to this extent".

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I still don't see what you're getting at. I'm not implying it's never been done. But show me in the last 8 years when Obama got upset and threw a tantrum over a report on the internet.

I'm talking about media factions campaigning against the president, not the president's reaction.

Well I don't disagree with that, but that's not my point in the first place. News outlets or "fake news" outlets are putting out stories about Trump because they know it'll get under his skin. He reacts to it every time, and that's at the end of the day what people are hungry for.

I see what you mean now and agree.

Well damn. Is this what it feels like to have a civil discussion with you? I like this.

How many more times will the word "unprecedented" be used in regard to a US President in the next 4 years?

I'm going with 1,836.

Sarah Palin is masturbating to all of this BTW.

Sounds good to me.

The has always been fake news, Trump did start that. However the media took it to a whole other level with cover ups for numerous Arkancides.

I had the impression that Obama fueled the fire by not to showing his birth certificate. On Feb. 10th 2007 he announced running for presidency, June 3rd 2008 became the Demo nominee, won the election and was inaugurated on Jan 20 2009. It was only till April 11th of 2011 his BC was posted online. So much for his promise of transparency. He stoked that fire by not being forthright

I'm pretty sure this had more to do with the spark of controversy and conspiracy over his birth certificate because of his middle name. Presidents technically do not have to show their birth certificate upon taking office. But Obama was the wild card because of his background and name. Hardly fueling the fire.

I wonder how many times it will actually matter. I'm going with 50% unprecedented for a reason and 50% media stink.

I didn't check what CNN had to say on it but I believe they were reporting on it as well. How did you come up with nothing?

That is in no way their motivation for doing that. It's all about the money. There were companies in eastern Europe making stupid amount of money publishing fake stories during the election cycle and I'm sure they aren't going to stop any time soon. Why would they?

I didn't know that they reported it is what I meant by that.

Well of course it's about the money. That's what clickbait exists for as well. I'm not saying it wasn't the motivation behind it because that's just obvious. I imagine they gained millions of clicks on their site just by that article alone.

Maybe there are people out there that think they know him by his name and will form either a positive or negative opinion on him based on that alone. While it's true some people think that way, that doesn't make it sound reasoning.

His name isn't the issue. His first name, "Barrack," is either linguistically related to "Baruch" ben Neriah (according to Josephus a Jewish aristocrat and son of Neriah) or "Barak" who was a military leader of the ancient Israelite. Just having the name "Barrack" gives no indication on his opinion of Israel. There are many Jewish people who are very disappointed, even critical, with Obama over issues concerning Israel.

It's just an opinion that Barrack Obama was in on the controversy over Article Two of the Constitution based on the fact he often like to scoff at the Constitution.
The 21 times Obama violated the Constitution

Dude, you're completely off the radar with that one. There were countless reports of people asking for his birthplace and certificate when his middle name was much more publicized. I'm not talking about his first and last name, I'm talking about his middle name being Hussein. If you somehow forgot, the reason for this outcry was because of the big issue with Sadam Hussein which back then was a very touchy subject, and so people started to question the validity of Barack leading this country since you have to have been born in the US. Rightfully so, there was several counts of controversy over this and eventually he did show his birth certificate solidifying his validity to be president.

He was in no way shape or form involved in "fueling the flame." You're assuming this country isn't dumb enough to assume that Barack Hussein Obama isn't the name of a extremist Muslim out to destroy the US. That's literally what people believed.

lol so what if his name is hussein

first of all having an arabic name doesn't make you a muslim second of all, even if he was a muslim, who cares. isn't it supposed to be a 'free country'? why shouldn't a muslim run for president.

You obviously missed the origin of this back and forth. I'm not saying there is anything wrong. What I'm saying is in response to what Nea originally said:

He's under the assumption that Obama portrayed fueling the fire in the same sense that Trump seems to be doing. Which is inaccurate since Obama did show his birth certificate due to an outcry because of his middle name.

yeah, i wasn't directing that at you, i was just saying about how americans would've freaked out if obama was a muslim who ****in cares

Well again, it was due to the whole deal with Sadam Hussein. Barack Obama having the same middle name as an Iraq president raised some concerns. Especially with Barack Obama taking the highest seat in the country. I'm not saying it's right that the country freaked out, but you and Nea are assuming people in this country aren't dumb enough to think that such a thing would actually be accurate.

I don't think it'd had been much of a big deal had Sadam Hussein not been so "famous".

so if saddam had a different first name like joseph or tony or something and then a guy with the same name ran for president, people would freak out? that's retarded. but i know a lot of americans are stupid that way.

Well that's not entirely my point but I think you know what I mean. When Obama was elected for his first term, the fact that he was the first black president raised some concern with people. Tagging on the fact that Hussein was his middle name raised more concerns. So much to the fact that releasing his birth certificate was the only way to justify it. Which he then did.

Hussein on its own raised alarm because of the obvious and what Saddam Hussein was known for. So yeah, I guess if his name was James and he did do the same things as Saddam Hussein, there'd be concern. But that's not what happened.

many african americans have arabic or middle eastern names. doesn't make them muslims.

also i think the USA is the same as lebanon in that you must be christian to be able to run for president.

Well in the US you have to have been born in the US in order to run. I don't know about the Christianity thing. But again, you also have to take into the fact that Obama was elected after George W. Bush. The same George W. Bush people believed allowed the war on terrorism and the Iraq invasion etc. It was just a completely ****ed up situation that Obama then had to take on. So with the Iraq invasion and the fact that his name shared the same as Saddam (the same Saddam that was involved in the Iraq War), the outcry was to be expected.

Ah ****. That's right. I had a brain fart. I was more focusing on my point so I missed the obvious.

it's one of those things that americans say is not a factor but we all know it is. i'd like to see americans elect an atheist or druze or something. has there ever been a non-christian president in the US?

Oh yeah, plenty.

George Washington was Episcopalian. John Adams was Unitarian.

those are just different types of christians

Lmao

You were asking specifically Christian. But yes, there have been Abraham Lincoln has no specified religion.

we all know he was probably a jesus freak too

Andrew Johnson had no formal affiliation either. Though I guess the same could be said for him as well. Overall Christianity is a common trend with presidents if that answers your question.

Every president has been a Christian.

lmfao no ****, ki

maybe lincoln was a secret muslim

hmmm abraham sounds a little too much like ibrahim

In some form, though some not formally part of any church or religious outlet.

I never said they were all ministers, I said they were all Christians.