What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 02-12-2017, 06:05 PM

It's so weird to me that something can be counter culture while around 50% of the population currently is subscribed to that ideology. Kinda paradoxical.

Lucem Ferre · 02-12-2017, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Anti-abortion, anti-welfare state, anti-Obamacare, BUILD A WALL, Nationalism, lowering taxes etc. there's more, but the point is that there's a difference of opinion between certain elements of the right and certain elements of the left. One is considered to be the norm (the left) and one is relatively against what we see reported in the media (the right).

We have to speak in generalities of course.

No, no, neither is considered out of the norm. One is just slightly more popular.

It's like arguing that Justin Bieber is counter culture because he's not as popular as Taylor Swift.

**Goofle** · 02-12-2017, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's so weird to me that something can be counter culture while around 50% of the population currently is subscribed to that ideology. Kinda paradoxical.

Not exactly. People's privately held beliefs don't always find themselves into wider culture. Hence why so many people assumed Hillary had it in the bag.

**Frownland** · 02-12-2017, 06:09 PM

Well y'all are pretty mainstream for a counterculture is all I'm saying and I think that's pretty obvious.

Lucem Ferre · 02-12-2017, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Not exactly. People's privately held beliefs don't always find themselves into wider culture. Hence why so many people assumed Hillary had it in the bag.

People thought she had it in the bag because she was going against Trump, not because she was going against a conservative.

Anteater · 02-12-2017, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

But I pointed out already he consistently donates to Republicans as well

He bet on the candidate he thought would win, that's why he gave to Hillary

Just another guy with so much money he has nothing left to buy but politicians

1. No he doesn't. Some executives from a hedge fund he founded donated around 36 thousand to Republicans (such as Paul Ryan) who were in opposition to Donald Trump. Soros himself doesn't spend money on organizations that are in conflict with his globalist POV.

2. Agreed: guys like him are an underlying problem with the political system that we have, along with the Koch Brothers.

**Goofle** · 02-12-2017, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

but you realize it's about a mile off of what the point of discussion was right

so much so that I couldn't even tell if you were talking about Soros tbh

What is the grand point I was missing then? I'm happy to say I misunderstood the point (I think I may have already done that). But I mean, we were obviously discussing Soros so it seems kinda sillyto pretend you didn't know I was talking about him.

**Janszoon** · 02-12-2017, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Anti-abortion, anti-welfare state, anti-Obamacare, BUILD A WALL, Nationalism, lowering taxes etc. there's more, but the point is that there's a difference of opinion between certain elements of the right and certain elements of the left. One is considered to be the norm (the left) and one is relatively against what we see reported in the media (the right).

We have to speak in generalities of course.

Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.

**Goofle** · 02-12-2017, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.

Well yes, we are far more left over here unfortunately. It's crazy actually. But I think it's rather obvious to me as somebody who watches the USA quite closely that you seem to have a heavily left media establishment, which doesn't really represent the overall values of the country.

**Frownland** · 02-12-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.

Obamacare and American nationalism are two huge topics in the U.K.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Well y'all are pretty mainstream for a counterculture is all I'm saying and I think that's pretty obvious. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x