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Old 02-06-2017, 12:48 PM   #2301 (permalink)
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Here's a specific example, when the topic of the Burqa came up. Their minds are only wrapped around women being forced to wear them and not the fact that the women willingly want to wear them.
Translation: all white women have internalized misogyny, but all brown women don't.
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DJ i think you're the one being ignorant on the topic... the point is that no culture or belief system should force an individual to act or dress a certain way because of their sex. it's not about whether they want to, it's about them being forced to.
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DJ i think you're the one being ignorant on the topic... the point is that no culture or belief system should force an individual to act or dress a certain way because of their sex. it's not about whether they want to, it's about them being forced to.
Sure. But if they want to wear it, let them wear it. Forcing them not to wear it is the same thing as forcing them to wear it. You can't change some people. The work should go towards changing the law not changing the people. The women who get attacked for wearing their burqa or hijab are victims of a hate crime no matter how the assh*le attacking them feels about the laws. Violence is violence. It solves nothing.
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I honestly wasn't sure.
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I honestly wasn't sure.
i dont think DJ was necessarily saying they shouldnt have a say either. just a tough issue all around because obviously there's no good in going from one extreme to the other.
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Donald Trump Is Signing Executive Orders That He Doesn't Read or Understand | GQ

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"For the moment, Mr. Bannon remains the president’s dominant adviser, despite Mr. Trump’s anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed giving his chief strategist a seat on the National Security Council, a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban."

So there are only two options here. Donald Trump either read this Executive Order and did not understand what placing Steve Bannon on the National Security Council (especially at the expense of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the Director of National Intelligence) would mean, which is terrifying... OR Donald Trump didn't read the ****ing Executive Order that he signed. Some people would say we should give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he just didn't understand and wasn't properly briefed (WHICH AGAIN, IS HORRIFYING IN AND OF ITSELF), but then you get to this chestnut from the Times piece:

"For a man who sometimes has trouble concentrating on policy memos, Mr. Trump was delighted to page through a book that offered him 17 window covering options."

And then you remember this little nugget from Politico a couple weeks back:

"One person who frequently talks to Trump said aides have to push back privately against his worst impulses in the White House... and have to control information that may infuriate him. He gets bored and likes to watch TV."
I uhhhhhhhhh. I know this isn't a hard news article but wow.
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Not sure how that happened.
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OMG four more years of this and I'll have forgotten what it feels like for the gaping maw within my soul to have consumed my ability to laugh.
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