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Lucem Ferre 02-15-2017 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1805998)
The border is a line. If you can cross one spot easy from one side, it's the exact same coming from the other direction. It's not like there's a wall then a couple miles and then another wall and each country is responsible for protecting their own wall.

Or are you considering which country it is easier to go unnoticed as an illegal immigrant?
That.

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2017 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1805999)
Next time you're in the produce ailse and notice that the prices of fruits and vegatables are reasonable thank your lucky stars for Mexicans.
I work produce, and we don't have much shit from Mexico. What does that have to do with anything? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Chula Vista 02-15-2017 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1806001)
I assume he means it's easier to go from Mexico to the US maybe?

Which is just a wash because of how easy it is to get into either
You obviously haven't tried to do it in a car. I can drive into Mexico without blinking. I can take a nap while waiting in line trying to get back into the US.

Lucem Ferre 02-15-2017 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1806000)
Can you tell me where you get this number from

All I can find is that Canadians don't even really know
https://www.reference.com/government...7f166da99ce7e4

They don't really know. Neither does America. That's why it's an estimation.

Chula Vista 02-15-2017 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1806004)
I work produce, and we don't have much shit from Mexico. What does that have to do with anything? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
The majority of produce that comes out of California is grown and harvested by illegal Mexicans.

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2017 09:13 PM
Okay, and? That justifies them not paying taxes or contributing to society?

Edit: Let me rephrase. Their work is obviously a contribution to society, but beyond that they are exempt from the same things that all legal citizens are not, which is not a good thing.

Lucem Ferre 02-15-2017 09:18 PM
Now that it's established that according to all the available information we have it's harder to get into Canada than the United States can we start taking the discussion more seriously rather than screaming racist, white or nationalist like you have the most liberal case of tourette syndrome known to man?

Chula Vista 02-15-2017 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1806010)
Okay, and? That justifies them not paying taxes or contributing to society?

Edit: Let me rephrase. Their work is obviously a contribution to society, but beyond that they are exempt from the same things that all legal citizens are not, which is not a good thing.
At this point it is what it is though. They do the work that most Americans couldn't be bothered with. And you and I benefit from it. Want to "fix it? Our economy will suffer, prices will sore, some companies might go out of business, healthcare costs will go up even more, etc.

A lot of needlessly scared Americans will sleep better at night but will also bitch like crazy when their tomato prices go up 150% as a result.

Lucem Ferre 02-15-2017 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1806011)
this doesn't actually link me a source either lol

his word is as good as yours
No, but he does tell you right where he gets his information when saying "The Toronto Sun reports..."

Lucem Ferre 02-15-2017 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1806019)
At this point it is what it is though. They do the work that most Americans couldn't be bothered with. And you and I benefit from it. Want to "fix it? Our economy will suffer, prices will sore, some companies might go out of business, healthcare costs will go up even more, etc.

A lot of needlessly scared Americans will sleep better at night but will also bitch like crazy when their tomato prices go up 150% as a result.
That's bull****. They don't do the work most Americans couldn't be bothered with. There are tons of Americans looking for jobs that would love to take ANYTHING they could.


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