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Old 02-10-2017, 01:35 PM   #2401 (permalink)
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Good luck with that.
It's the reality if you understand demographics (75% being a comical exaggeration)

This is something Republicans understand too

All the major cities save for San Antonio already lean blue
and every year less of the population is rural and less of the population is white

Aditionally younger people are much more sympathetic to socialism and as they reach prime voting age there will be an even larger shift
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:45 PM   #2402 (permalink)
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Aditionally younger people are much more sympathetic to socialism and as they reach prime voting age there will be an even larger shift
They will be until they realize that ultimately they're just putting money into the pockets of the white liberal elite who tend to be beholden to Wall-Street as opposed to the principles of their European liberal forefathers. Then they'll shift back toward conservatism and become Libertarian like me.
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They overwhelming vote Democrat at the end of the day you realize that's my point right
And my point is that the working poor -- be they brown, white, black, or purple -- only vote democrat because of economic issues, not social ones. If the Republican party ever significantly changes its attitudes and tactics regarding minorities and the poor (which I imagine it will have to) then don't be surprised if many of them start voting red. You're allies atm, but that doesn't mean they believe the same things you do.
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And my point is that the working poor -- be they brown, white, black, or purple -- only vote democrat because of economic issues, not social ones. If the Republican party ever significantly changes its attitudes and tactics regarding minorities and the poor (which I imagine it will have to) then don't be surprised if many of them start voting red. You're allies atm, but that doesn't mean they believe the same things you do.
This is just flat out incorrect though I understand why you'd believe it

The working poor do not vote Democrat

Unlessss, wait for it, they are non-white

This is because culture determines most people's politics more so than any issues
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Why do working poor whites support Trump?

Culture, culture, culture
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This is just flat out incorrect though I understand why you'd believe it

The working poor do not vote Democrat

Unlessss, wait for it, they are non-white

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Why do working poor whites support Trump?

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Duh. Doesn't matter. The poor don't vote your way because they give a **** about socialism. Take away their distrust of the Republican party and you get more Republicans. Or at least you get a fighting chance of them choosing social issues over economic ones.
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Right that's why it's incorrect to say the working poor care about economic issues

They don't.

Latinos are culturally left because starting generations back Democrats stopped **** talking them and Repubs didn't

The only way to even begin to change that would be rewrite their immigration policy which would cost Repubs as many whites as they'd stand to gain in Latinos
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I have to wonder if you meant to say social issues and not economic?
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I have to wonder if you meant to say social issues and not economic?
I think you just didn't know what I said. The poor choose economic issues now, but agree with the Republicans on social ones. Clear?

Conservatism isn't going to die just because the Republican party is currently losing the culture wars. Give it a generation and the party will have changed out of necessity. I suspect it will be less about white vs. everyone else, and more about the elite vs. the 99%. All it will take is reframing the argument along class culture lines rather than race culture. I suppose the Democrats could change back to supporting the working class rather than the liberal intellectuals, but it would probably easier for the Republicans to start supporting the poor rather than the Democrats to go back on their moral values and leave behind their social liberalism.

This is all conjecture of course, but the political lines have to bend sooner or later.
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