What Did President Trump Do Now?

Key · 12-18-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

To contextualize this, there are oodles more people these days. I see a lot of people thinking that this means as a percentage of the population. She still way outdoes the difference in the popular vote compared to the 2000 election though.

That's certainly true. I didn't really take the sentences this stems from too literally although it's still impressive.

Chula Vista · 12-18-2016, 04:12 PM

Pompous. Egotistical. Arrogant. Privileged. That look has become so cliche he should trademark it.

The Batlord · 12-18-2016, 04:20 PM

If he did then you wouldn't be able to use that avatar. Fair trade.

Key · 12-18-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

If he did then you wouldn't be able to use that avatar. Fair trade.

This is the only good thing coming out of Trump: the dank memes.

Anteater · 12-18-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

How do you not see how much money his businesses made during the campaign season? Yes he did lose some money over the polarizing comments that he made where certain businesses no longer wanted to be associated with his brand but other than that. He ended up coming out in the black as far as his businesses goes just by running for president. Don't you think that will continue with him as president? He's setting himself up for so many conflicts of interest right now but he's going to continue doing it until he's forced to stop.

You make feasible points, but if you are going to say that he did lose money based on things we said then I think this is something we'd need to see hard numbers on for better or for worse.

As far as the conflicts of interests are concerned, I'm actually rather interested in how he handles a lot of them, seeing as we've never had someone elected before with a multimillion globally spanning business before. Someone with the kind of wide ranging assets he possesses was not in the Founding Fathers' predictions. The ball is in Congress's court I suppose.

With Trump's Potential Conflicts Of Interest, Congress Will Have Final Say : NPR

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Again profits for his businesses and all those campaign donations that ended up just funneled into the businesses and didn't even really go towards the campaigns. He has himself set up so lovely that he doesn't even want the salary that the president gets. He's going to do one of those just give me a 1 dollar for the year because he's making so much from his businesses and if you think he's ever going to be fully detached from his businesses think again. He's basically handing them off to his kids which he can just invite over for dinner and tell him how he wants it run but I'm sure he trusts them to run it the way that he would and if they are doing anything he doesn't like he can just easily talk to them about it. Also deep down to be honest, I think Trump didn't really expect to win. He did it for the money and then when he noticed he had a real chance, he ran with it. He didn't fully come around to thinking that he could actually win til probably the last week before the election.

Agreed mostly, but you make it sound like his kids being involved is some kind of problem that has never occurred before in presidential history, which is not true. Look at FDR for example plus 15 other past presidents.

Donald Trump's Kids Wouldn't Be First to Work in White House

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Trump pretty much used that base and the people on the fringe that doesn't like establishment politicians to win along with all the people that are out of work or have been on hard times with their job or finding a job. He also was spewing so much hate speech that riled up his hardcore fans they wanted to make a final stand against PC culture. People that voted for Trump but want to distance themselves and not be called a bigot/racist for supporting a conman that tapped into the feelings of hatred that people were feeling towards Obama and specific groups whether they are immigrants who they feel are stealing jobs from them or them damn niggers that are just soaking up safety net programs and aren't contributing. Also he played off of the fear that Muslims are evil and need to be registered upon entering the country which is such a POS. If someone said that about Christians there would be hell to pay. Even if you don't believe any of those positions but still voted for Trump. You co-opted that behavior. You are basically saying it's okay to hate those groups. There is no separation there.

Trump tapped into feelings of hated and racism to some extent, but that's not really why he won. I'll save you the pep talk and let this nice European liberal fellow break it down.

djchameleon · 12-18-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You make feasible points, but if you are going to say that he did lose money based on things we said then I think this is something we'd need to see hard numbers on for better or for worse.

How much money may Donald Trump have lost already? - Business Insider

This article breaks down some hard numbers and that was just from the rapist comment about illegal immigrants. I didn't dig deep enough to see how much more he has lost since then. Majority of the media outlets are only reporting his gains for the most part.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

As far as the conflicts of interests are concerned, I'm actually rather interested in how he handles a lot of them, seeing as we've never had someone elected before with a multimillion globally spanning business before. Someone with the kind of wide ranging assets he possesses was not in the Founding Fathers' predictions. The ball is in Congress's court I suppose.

With Trump's Potential Conflicts Of Interest, Congress Will Have Final Say : NPR

We shall see what they do, he's really stepping across ethical lines on this one.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Agreed mostly, but you make it sound like his kids being involved is some kind of problem that has never occurred before in presidential history, which is not true. Look at FDR for example plus 15 other past presidents.

Donald Trump's Kids Wouldn't Be First to Work in White House

I didn't know if he was setting a precedent for it or not. Obviously you have provided proof that he's not but I still feel like it IS an issue regardless if other presidents have done so in the past.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Trump tapped into feelings of hated and racism to some extent, but that's not really why he won. I'll save you the pep talk and let this nice European liberal fellow break it down.

I'm not saying that's the only reason why he won but it is part of numerous other reasons.
I will watch that 13 min video eventually even though I have a strong feeling what he's going to say.

djchameleon · 12-18-2016, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

It's not as if the GOP is capable of producing a candidate that doesn't have disgusting policies anyway this would be just as bad if it was president elect Rubio or something

I disagree. President Elect Rubio wouldn't pick this bad of a cabinet full of no political experiencing having mother ****ers.

Speaking of which, I need to update the OP.

djchameleon · 12-18-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

don't really care about any of that

policy, policy, policy,

the only thing that matters

You should care about that. It isn't just that they will be promoting Republican leaning policy changes they will be going to extremes and/or dismantling certain departments in the process. Or at least the very least running them extremely inefficiently.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 12-18-2016, 05:57 PM

lol

Key · 12-18-2016, 06:01 PM

fite

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